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    Is that taking into account healthcare provision in developed nations?
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Is that taking into account healthcare provision in developed nations?
    No, based on current data.

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    I suppose not many professionals are willing to release their models for developed nations until they have to.
    Look, the wages you withheld from the workmen who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of Hosts. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves for slaughter.

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    Why would they? It would give figure comparable to flu and where's money in that? Gotta sell those masks first and get some clicks.

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    So if you get infected with the Corona Virus, does that make you a member of the Wuhan Clan?
    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    Extract:

    What should I do to prepare?
    Experts say preparation, not panic, is what's needed now.

    "We need to think about whether you have enough medication and essential foods such as canned foods, some pasta or food that can give us fibre, carbohydrate and protein for two weeks, if things were to interrupt the supply chain of food," Professor Mackay says.

    "Don't forget to prepare for pets as well, with extra supplies of dried pet food and flea treatments in case there are shortages."

    But he cautions against panic-buying supplies or hoarding food.

    "We don't want to see empty shelves," he says.

    "We have time to prepare now by just buying a few extra supplies each time we shop, and set it aside."

    Sharon Lewin, from Melbourne's Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity, says it'll be even more important for people to get a flu shot before the next flu season.

    That's because some people who have contracted the virus overseas have had co-infections, which worsened their conditions.
    Basically doing this tailored to family needs.

    Which is basically just doing what we'd otherwise do for flu season and a tiny touch extra. Gradually stocking up on canned soups, cereals, disinfectants, the usual. The current goal is to have a three weeks minimum of canned meals on standby. I may bump that up to four as time goes by, since it's all stuff that will keep long enough to deplete at a natural rate anyhow.

    Yes, there will be at least four weeks of bog roll. No wipes left behind.

    Making sure we get the flu vaccine early to reduce the risk of co-infection if we did get Corona'd. I'm in the early to mid-thirties range, no history of smoking or lung disease. So my risk of complication is pretty low on the current data. It's much more risky for my parents in the 60s & 70s brackets, so they'll definitely need the flu vaccine but they were getting it anyway so no drama. Might go as far as to have a chat with the GP about doubling up on their scripts.

    I've started gradually counselling dad about the idea that if it does become a problem here, he'll need to curtail a few things like trips down to the shop every day for his newspaper or going to the mall to walk and just settle for TV & radio (he doesn't do computers, it's a Whole Thing). But we have a house with a decent sized backyard so even if there was a quarantine, he can have a stroll about safely.

    Not huge seismic changes, just sensible adjustments to the normal regime. We're very lucky.
    Last edited by Sparq; February 25 2020 at 01:40:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Is that taking into account healthcare provision in developed nations?
    To be fair, sounds like the Chinese have been pulling out a lot of stops (ventilators, ECMO etc) they are not a 'third world' health provider. If this gets out in a serious way then it doesn't really matter how good your national healthcare provision is. At 5-10% requiring some form of critical care it's going to reapidly overwhelm even the most developed nations. Assuming everyone gets this over the course of 12 months you're more than doubling the standard mortality rate for those in the 20-40 year old age brackets compared to the norm.


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    Captain Trips is here?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Captain Trips is here?

    Nope, not yet. Still sealed in a lab somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Captain Trips is here?

    Nope, not yet. Still sealed in a lab somewhere.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totally Not Larkonnis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Is that taking into account healthcare provision in developed nations?
    To be fair, sounds like the Chinese have been pulling out a lot of stops (ventilators, ECMO etc) they are not a 'third world' health provider. If this gets out in a serious way then it doesn't really matter how good your national healthcare provision is. At 5-10% requiring some form of critical care it's going to reapidly overwhelm even the most developed nations. Assuming everyone gets this over the course of 12 months you're more than doubling the standard mortality rate for those in the 20-40 year old age brackets compared to the norm.
    China also produces much of the medical supplies for the world, so they're naturally gonna have the ability to fight it.

    But what happens when it spreads to the rest of the world and China still has to fight their own outbreak? The geniuses who offshored production don't seem to have an answer for what happens next

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    On the bright side, our carbon footprint goes down a bit...
    meh

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    Meanwhile in Iran....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51628484
    Iran's deputy health minister and an MP have both tested positive for the new coronavirus disease, as it struggles to contain an outbreak that has killed 15.
    The senior health official, Iraj Harirchi, said in a video that he was self-isolating and starting medication.
    He was seen mopping his brow repeatedly at a news conference on Monday, when he denied the authorities were lying about the scale of the Covid-19 outbreak.
    They have reported 95 cases, but the actual number is thought to be higher.

    The director general of the World Health Organization (WHO) has said the sudden increase in cases in the country is "deeply concerning".
    More people have died in Iran from the virus than anywhere else outside China.
    It is one of three global hot-spots causing great concern among health experts that the virus could be developing into a pandemic. The others are South Korea and northern Italy, where cases have surged in recent days.
    "Self isolating" after holding a fucking press conference while infected in which you deny under-reporting of the scale of the outbreak.

    Mindblowing scenes.

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    With 15 dead its been there for weeks, so it's got to be all over Iran by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Captain Trips is here?



    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alistair again.

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    I would have thought Italians would be least affected by it considering their love of the pharmacy [expensive enough]. Maybe they rely too much on antibiotics and not enough on becoming immune naturally.

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    With 15 dead its been there for weeks, so it's got to be all over Iran by now
    Sure will especially when the Iranians refuse to quarantine in order to protect their holy shrine revenue.
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    a persian girl I know was happy that the outbreak started in Qom where "all the religious people are" and said she hoped the Ayatollah caught it from the health minister

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    I would have thought Italians would be least affected by it considering their love of the pharmacy [expensive enough]. Maybe they rely too much on antibiotics and not enough on becoming immune naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    I would have thought Italians would be least affected by it considering their love of the pharmacy [expensive enough]. Maybe they rely too much on antibiotics and not enough on becoming immune naturally.
    It's a new pathogen, nobody has resistance, that's literally the problem...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    And we have 8 or 50+ deaths in Iran.
    Doubt Iran have the resources/capacity to fight this kind of outbreak.
    Might soon see a huge spread in the middle east.

    Curious if it is present in Africa, just not detected yet.
    1 case in Egypt from weeks ago, otherwise nothing. But China is involved in a lot of infrastructure projects there...

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