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    Eventual political integration of the Koreas under a democratic government from the South is generally viewed as inevitable by the U.S. and South Korea.
    younger people however as stated in the article see things differently because it costs too much €


    

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    China would hate any attempt at reunification - NK serves as a good buffer zone.

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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
    China would hate any attempt at reunification - NK serves as a good buffer zone.
    Well USA still has Japan, South Korea and Taiwan keeping a close eye.

    A nice alternative would be Burma. I don't think many will object to destroying the Burmese junta to protect the Rohinya from murder and devastation.
    Might have to put Aung San Suu Kyi back under house arrest though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
    China would hate any attempt at reunification - NK serves as a good buffer zone.
    Well USA still has Japan, South Korea and Taiwan keeping a close eye.

    A nice alternative would be Burma. I don't think many will object to destroying the Burmese junta to protect the Rohinya from murder and devastation.
    Might have to put Aung San Suu Kyi back under house arrest though.
    I used to crow about the fact that she went to my uni, now, erm, well yeh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spitroast View Post
    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    I think Trump is dreaming the same dream...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    I think Trump is dreaming the same dream...
    A powerhouse like SK will never be independent but China picking it up seems straight up fantasy.
    They could snuggle with Japan but it's so deep in american ass...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    I think Trump is dreaming the same dream...
    A powerhouse like SK will never be independent but China picking it up seems straight up fantasy.
    They could snuggle with Japan but it's so deep in american ass...
    SKorea snuggling worth Japan would take a significant case of realpolitk to achieve. I'd wager on the scale of "imminent invasion by China" at the least. After all Japanese warcrimes are only just facing from living memory and that generations direct descendants are still around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by spitroast View Post
    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    You support the reunification of Korea under the Seoul government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    You support the reunification of Korea under the Seoul government?
    50/50, i'm an idealist

    but yeah if we can't have that Seoul would do

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    North Korea fired another missile over Japan.

    Around 2 hours ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBlind View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    I think Trump is dreaming the same dream...
    A powerhouse like SK will never be independent but China picking it up seems straight up fantasy.
    They could snuggle with Japan but it's so deep in american ass...
    SKorea snuggling worth Japan would take a significant case of realpolitk to achieve. I'd wager on the scale of "imminent invasion by China" at the least. After all Japanese warcrimes are only just facing from living memory and that generations direct descendants are still around.
    Thats almost an understatement, and its not just WW2. Japan has been shitting on Korea for the past 500 years or so.

    Noone hates asians like other asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilalaunebör View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    I think Trump is dreaming the same dream...
    A powerhouse like SK will never be independent but China picking it up seems straight up fantasy.
    They could snuggle with Japan but it's so deep in american ass...
    SKorea snuggling worth Japan would take a significant case of realpolitk to achieve. I'd wager on the scale of "imminent invasion by China" at the least. After all Japanese warcrimes are only just facing from living memory and that generations direct descendants are still around.
    Thats almost an understatement, and its not just WW2. Japan has been shitting on Korea for the past 500 years or so.

    Noone hates asians like other asians.
    But I thought racism was invented by white people?


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    no m8 it's just blacks that can't be racist, get with the program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larkonis Trassler View Post
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    Aye, the Chinese don't want a close US ally right next door, like China having a military alliance with Mexico. Yeah nope.
    Maybe SK could stop being an american satellite first? One can dream.
    I think Trump is dreaming the same dream...
    A powerhouse like SK will never be independent but China picking it up seems straight up fantasy.
    They could snuggle with Japan but it's so deep in american ass...
    SKorea snuggling worth Japan would take a significant case of realpolitk to achieve. I'd wager on the scale of "imminent invasion by China" at the least. After all Japanese warcrimes are only just facing from living memory and that generations direct descendants are still around.
    Thats almost an understatement, and its not just WW2. Japan has been shitting on Korea for the past 500 years or so.

    Noone hates asians like other asians.
    But I thought racism was invented by white people?
    But I thought you were just a low effort cunt, wait, you are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
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    I'm not sure hurting trade with China will be a bad thing.
    oh boy
    care to explain ?
    Sure, it's bait - I'll bite anyhow.

    China is basically the workshop of the western world - all those neat gadgets we western do love so truely, have components produced in China. And I don't think the west has enough factories, which he could spin up as a replacement that quick. Same goes for shifting to suppliers in other countries.

    This, dear kids, is the result of the capitalist invention of JIT supply: who needs a well-thoughout storage and supply management, if one can outsource that (costs) all to the suppliers? And the best thing about that: if you run out of supplies for your products, you even can blame others for your own faults!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Eventual political integration of the Koreas under a democratic government from the South is generally viewed as inevitable by the U.S. and South Korea.
    younger people however as stated in the article see things differently because it costs too much €
    Hard to tell from the outside. But what I do can tell is that in the case of Germany's reunification, numbers didn't matter a bit - it was all about that warm, fuzzy feeling. With an added "Hell yeah - we (=all Germans) did it!" pride on top of it.

    To all of which I agreed.

    But I also remember the federal election in 1990, Helmut Kohl vs. Oskar Lafontaine, where Kohl literaly promised "blooming landscapes within 10 years" and Lafontaine warned about that this could economically never be achieved in such a short time frame. Of course, Oskar lost it - Kohl basically bought himself his reelection this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    Eventual political integration of the Koreas under a democratic government from the South is generally viewed as inevitable by the U.S. and South Korea.
    younger people however as stated in the article see things differently because it costs too much €
    Hard to tell from the outside. But what I do can tell is that in the case of Germany's reunification, numbers didn't matter a bit - it was all about that warm, fuzzy feeling. With an added "Hell yeah - we (=all Germans) did it!" pride on top of it.

    To all of which I agreed.

    But I also remember the federal election in 1990, Helmut Kohl vs. Oskar Lafontaine, where Kohl literaly promised "blooming landscapes within 10 years" and Lafontaine warned about that this could economically never be achieved in such a short time frame. Of course, Oskar lost it - Kohl basically bought himself his reelection this way.
    From where im sitting, the former east does pretty well now. Maybe not in comparison with the south, but the true divide in Germany imo is north/south, with the exception of Hamburg.

    Its funny to draw the comparison because we have such different views of their personalities, but Kohl was basically the Obama "hope & change" candidate at that time. Tbh i cant say i entirely think thats a bad thing, in the face of big challenges a nation needs someone who promises a positive vision.

    Now we know that Kohl meant "blooming landscapes for lobbyists", but at the time it was the right thing to say.

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    Kohl wasn't afraid to seize a situation a pull through.

    I can't say that I'd have the same faith in Merkel.

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