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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Their air raid alarm is really awfull
    What do you think is appropriate? An Ice-Cream truck tingaling notification gently caressing your inner ear canals when the nukes are incoming?

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    See the thing is, with him the ice cream truck noise is actually alerting him for a different sort of caressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Their air raid alarm is really awfull
    What do you think is appropriate? An Ice-Cream truck tingaling notification gently caressing your inner ear canals when the nukes are incoming?
    It's just something I'm not really used to and it sounds super weird


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    Their air raid alarm is really awfull
    What do you think is appropriate? An Ice-Cream truck tingaling notification gently caressing your inner ear canals when the nukes are incoming?
    It's just something I'm not really used to and it sounds super weird
    I dunno how old you are but during the cold war and some time after that sirens where blaring off all over this country when civil defense tested them on a regular basis. Didn't that happen in your part of the world? They where not that different to those shown in the video.

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    Ice Cream jingle for when it's Kim Jong-un being launched.

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    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Py...a-s-oil-supply

    US and Japan are now working towards cutting DPRK completely off from it's oil supply. This is a pretty drastic (and last available diplomatic sanction) action which will cripple them in many ways and will inevitably lead to an escalation. That is if they can manage to get it through the UN and not get vetoed by China and/or Russia

    The biggest suppliers of oil to DPRK are China, Russia, Mexico and Turkey (in that order).

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    Just bomb them already, get it over with

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    Let's do this shit, I'm up for apocalyptic wasteland bitches!

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    Music syncs (almost) perfectly


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    Let's do this shit, I'm up for apocalyptic wasteland bitches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Their air raid alarm is really awfull
    There's actually a reason for it being horrible, it being horrible causes you to notice it. It is relatively easy for our brain to block out repetitive noises, even things as loud and obnoxious as air raid sirens. There are new tornado sirens in Chicago that are designed not to be loud, but to be deeply unsettling.



    shit is fucking freaky

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Mexico and Turkey (in that order).
    Would Erdogan agree?

    Also when did Mexico have enough oil? You have cartels running around and yet Mexico for some inexplicable reason cannot put its oil
    wealth back into the country to stop poverty? I know there is always poverty somewhere but maybe it just speaks of the corruption
    of Mexico? [invade Mexico for the oil!]

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    In other news. North Korean ghost ships keep washing up ashore in Japan with dead bodies in them :S

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/as...pan/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Mexico and Turkey (in that order).
    Would Erdogan agree?

    Also when did Mexico have enough oil? You have cartels running around and yet Mexico for some inexplicable reason cannot put its oil
    wealth back into the country to stop poverty? I know there is always poverty somewhere but maybe it just speaks of the corruption
    of Mexico? [invade Mexico for the oil!]
    M8 until recently the richest man in the world was a Mexican. They lack the will or ability to enforce any and all anti-monopoly legislation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meester View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Mexico and Turkey (in that order).
    Would Erdogan agree?

    Also when did Mexico have enough oil? You have cartels running around and yet Mexico for some inexplicable reason cannot put its oil
    wealth back into the country to stop poverty? I know there is always poverty somewhere but maybe it just speaks of the corruption
    of Mexico? [invade Mexico for the oil!]
    I dunno, China stood for 63% of the oil imports into DPRK (1st) while Mexico stood for 24% (2nd)

    (it's the second largest exporter of oil to DPRK, so I was wrong in my initial post).

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Their air raid alarm is really awfull
    What do you think is appropriate? An Ice-Cream truck tingaling notification gently caressing your inner ear canals when the nukes are incoming?
    It's just something I'm not really used to and it sounds super weird
    I dunno how old you are but during the cold war and some time after that sirens where blaring off all over this country when civil defense tested them on a regular basis. Didn't that happen in your part of the world? They where not that different to those shown in the video.
    Actually here we're still testing sirens every first Sunday in the month at 12AM. Every single one goes off for 30 seconds

    Next test will be this Sunday


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    Saturday.


    

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeekar View Post
    Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Their air raid alarm is really awfull
    There's actually a reason for it being horrible, it being horrible causes you to notice it. It is relatively easy for our brain to block out repetitive noises, even things as loud and obnoxious as air raid sirens. There are new tornado sirens in Chicago that are designed not to be loud, but to be deeply unsettling.



    shit is fucking freaky
    Yes! In fact, this past July there was a good article on the BBC about this kind of applied neuroscience being used to augment public health announcements in Malawi.

    "The brain-hacking sound that's impossible to ignore"



    Regarding those Tornado sirens, is it weird that I want that as a ring-tone?

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    http://www.38north.org/2017/08/melleman083017/

    North Korea’s Hwasong-12 Launch: A Disturbing Development

    By: Michael Elleman
    August 30, 2017 | WMD

    While North Korea’s missile test on August 28, reportedly of the intermediate range Hwasong-12 (KN-17), broke up into three pieces during flight only flying 2,700 kilometers—far short of its 4,000 kilometer range—the launch was a disturbing development in Pyongyang’s continuing program to develop long-range missiles.

    Why Fly Over Japan?

    The test launch had two primary objectives. First, Kim Jong Un likely sought to take measure of the international community’s response to the overflight of Japanese territory. Though North Korea twice before attempted to launch a satellite using a flight path that passed over Japan, the Hwasong-12 is the first ballistic missile to overfly the island nation. If the US response to the test firing is judged to be mild by Pyongyang, North Korea may feel that future flights will be similarly accepted by Washington and its regional allies.

    Second, the flight was likely intended to evaluate the missile’s performance and reliability under operational conditions. Before the Hwasong-12 and the intercontinental range Hwasong-14 can be deployed, engineers must demonstrate that they work reliably when flown to maximum range. To date, the two missiles have been launched on steep flight paths that reach high altitudes, ensuring that the mock warheads land in the sea just short of Japan. Much can be learned from the tests, but full-range flights replicating the conditions a combat-capable missile would experience are needed. This flight begins to address that requirement.

    Is North Korea Testing a Post-Boost Vehicle (PBV)?

    The most recent Hwasong-12 flight ended with the mock warhead landing in the Pacific Ocean about 2,700 km from the launch site, well short of its maximum range. North Korean engineers may have shut the Hwasong-12’s engine down early, resulting in a shorter flight. Turning off the engine roughly five seconds early would yield a range and apogee matching the reported values. Or the payload mass of the first test may have been considerably lighter than that of North Korea’s nuclear warhead, allowing the missile to achieve a much higher altitude, thus exaggerating the derived maximum range when the missile is flown on a standard flight path. For example, if the May flight carried a payload of 250 kg, and the most recent test fitted the Hwasong-12 with a 1,250-kg package, the range is reduced to about 2,700 km, with a peak altitude of roughly 550 km. Finally, the Hwasong-12 may have been flown on a non-optimal trajectory, one that was steeper or flatter than a normal flight path employed to maximize achievable range. However, the reported apogee of the Hwasong-12 flight is inconsistent with this explanation.

    An alternative disturbing hypothesis is that tests of the missile have included a small post-boost vehicle (PBV) to provide extra boost to the payload after the main stage is discarded. The May 14 test of the Hwasong-12 was previously modeled, but could not replicate the flight’s reported apogee and range, without the addition of a small PBV. The increased velocity provided by the PBV allows the payload to reach an apogee of 2,000 km and travel about 700 km in range. The hypothesis is consistent with observations made by others, including Norbert Brugge, who identified the existence of fuelling ports located just under the Hwasong-12’s reentry vehicle.

    There are logical reasons for employing a PBV. In addition to boosting range, it can be used to make fine adjustments to payload’s velocity after engine shut-down. ICBMs fielded by the US, Russia, France and China all employ PBVs to achieve better accuracy. PBVs also provide a platform to carry a warhead, plus lightweight decoys or other penetration aids capable of impairing effectiveness against missile defensmoes.

    The presence of a PBV on the Hwasong-12 is just a hypothesis for now, although reports that the missile “broke into three pieces” are consistent with PBV engine failure. As the PBV separates from the main booster, its engine should activate and accelerate the reentry vehicle to the pre-defined velocity. If the PBV’s engine fails to initiate, and the reentry vehicle separates from the PBV, all three components (main booster, PBV and warhead) follow an approximately similar trajectory. To a distant radar, the missile appears to separate into three disparate pieces at the end of boost for no obvious reason. Without the added velocity provided by a properly functioning PBV, the reentry vehicle along with the main stage and PBV, land in the ocean 2,700 km from the launch site—well short of the missile’s maximum range. In other words, the dead weight of the non-functioning PBV, if it was fully fuelled, is equivalent to launching the missile with a 1,200 to 1,300 kg payload, as described above.

    While it is impossible to know with certainty why the most recent test flew only 2,700 km, if it was the result of a failed PBV, its use on North Korea’s long-range missiles is ominous. It is another sign that Pyongyang is deadly serious about developing and fielding nuclear-tipped missiles capable of striking the US mainland, and critical US military bases in the Pacific Ocean. North Korea has much work remaining—perhaps a year or two—before it matures the technologies and systems needed to credibly threaten the US.

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