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    however when somebody does manage to mobilize this lot to actually do something else than infighting, fish eating and being lazy terrifying things can happen.
    Really? because the Denmark i know has a 600 year history of losing every war, being ass whipped by sweden/norway every time they get above their station and generally achieving nothing of note. And the Danes accuse the English of living in the past...

    ( <3)
    when the bits of the populations that are worth a damn stays home to eat fish, quarrel with their neighbours and generally have a good time the outcome is quite predictable.

    though to be fair, if you're counting wars lost and won it doesn't come out overwhelmingly in Sweden's favor either.

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    so they were good at getting married, but not so good at anything else.
    I know this from somewhere...oh yeah, my own countrys' history!
    To be fair to Austria, you're not nearly as much of a megalomaniac with no basis in reality as good old Denmark.
    being small doesn't prevent thinking big y'kno!

    now about that independence thing you got going on, you lot done frolicking about yet ?
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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    hurr durr, they were reading Hitlers email.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.

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    Commonwealth did nothing meme.


    Still managed to btfo krauts in whichever theatre they were in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    and today kids, we learned that W0lf gets his history from the same neo-nazi pamplets he gets everything else.
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.

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    When you win so hard certain Teutonic spergelords are still asspained.

    No disrespect to my reasonable Germanbros <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    Also "real time"** decoding of Hitlers email.

    ** real time should be read as operationally useful time. Still pretty impressive for dudes* using pre-vacuum tube technology.
    * dudes should be read as Turing.
    meh

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    When your secret coded aryan master race messages get decoded by a faggot with an abacus working in a hut, feels pretty bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    i envy you sometimes W0lf, to be idiotic and naive enough to view the world in such stark black and white contrast must be an amazing comfort blanket that keeps all the bad things away.

    it doesn't mean you're not outright stupid, just as you are being right now, but it's mind-boggling to observe.

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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    Also "real time"** decoding of Hitlers email.

    ** real time should be read as operationally useful time. Still pretty impressive for dudes* using pre-vacuum tube technology.
    * dudes should be read as Turing.
    what happened to Turing remains a disgrace, apology or not and is at least to me, a prime example of why bigotry is the objectively wrong position to take and should be fought.
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    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    The rational part of me obviously would hate ww3 but some tiny part of me would love it, just for the sake of the entertainment.
    Give us some examples of what will be entertaining, specifically.
    All the awesome videos that will be uploaded to youtube?
    Or the hilarious mass genocide and ethnic cleansing? That is always good for a giggle!
    Lol remember that time the Turks killed all those Armenians? Fun times, I hope thats the next bf1 map.
    Is Enver Pasha the worst general in the history of the Empire?


    Possibly
    Considering that you linked a picture of Indy... I'm surprised you don't think that Franz Conrad von H÷tzendorf should really hold the title of worst general of WW I ^^




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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    Also "real time"** decoding of Hitlers email.

    ** real time should be read as operationally useful time. Still pretty impressive for dudes* using pre-vacuum tube technology.
    * dudes should be read as Turing.
    Around December 1932, Marian Rejewski of the Polish Cipher Bureau used the theory of permutations and flaws in the German military message procedures to break the message keys of the plugboard Enigma machine. Rejewski did that without knowing the machine wiring, so the result did not allow the Poles to read any messages. However, the French had a spy with access to German cipher materials that included the daily keys used in September and October 1932. Those keys included the plugboard settings. The French gave the material to the Poles, and Rejewski used some of that material and the message traffic in September and October to solve for the unknown rotor wiring. Consequently, the Poles were able to build their own Enigma machines, which were called Enigma doubles. Rejewski was aided by cryptanalysts Jerzy Rˇżycki and Henryk Zygalski, both of whom had been recruited with Rejewski from Poznań University. The Polish Cipher Bureau developed techniques to defeat the plugboard and find all components of the daily key, which enabled the Cipher Bureau to read the German's Enigma messages.

    On 26 and 27 July 1939,[4] in Pyry near Warsaw, the Poles initiated French and British military intelligence representatives into their Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment, including Zygalski sheets and the cryptologic bomb, and promised each delegation a Polish-reconstructed Enigma. The demonstration represented a vital basis for the later British continuation and effort.[5] During the war, British cryptologists decrypted a vast number of messages enciphered on Enigma. The intelligence gleaned from this source, codenamed "Ultra" by the British, was a substantial aid to the Allied war effort.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    Also "real time"** decoding of Hitlers email.

    ** real time should be read as operationally useful time. Still pretty impressive for dudes* using pre-vacuum tube technology.
    * dudes should be read as Turing.
    Around December 1932, Marian Rejewski of the Polish Cipher Bureau used the theory of permutations and flaws in the German military message procedures to break the message keys of the plugboard Enigma machine. Rejewski did that without knowing the machine wiring, so the result did not allow the Poles to read any messages. However, the French had a spy with access to German cipher materials that included the daily keys used in September and October 1932. Those keys included the plugboard settings. The French gave the material to the Poles, and Rejewski used some of that material and the message traffic in September and October to solve for the unknown rotor wiring. Consequently, the Poles were able to build their own Enigma machines, which were called Enigma doubles. Rejewski was aided by cryptanalysts Jerzy Rˇżycki and Henryk Zygalski, both of whom had been recruited with Rejewski from Poznań University. The Polish Cipher Bureau developed techniques to defeat the plugboard and find all components of the daily key, which enabled the Cipher Bureau to read the German's Enigma messages.

    On 26 and 27 July 1939,[4] in Pyry near Warsaw, the Poles initiated French and British military intelligence representatives into their Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment, including Zygalski sheets and the cryptologic bomb, and promised each delegation a Polish-reconstructed Enigma. The demonstration represented a vital basis for the later British continuation and effort.[5] During the war, British cryptologists decrypted a vast number of messages enciphered on Enigma. The intelligence gleaned from this source, codenamed "Ultra" by the British, was a substantial aid to the Allied war effort.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

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    No worries. You guys should be proud of it, but it doesn't devalue Turings brilliance in building a system that could do it at scale. Same as w0lfies blathering doesn't devalue the western allies (which includes the poles) effort.

    Remember the 1st IPB.

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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    Also "real time"** decoding of Hitlers email.

    ** real time should be read as operationally useful time. Still pretty impressive for dudes* using pre-vacuum tube technology.
    * dudes should be read as Turing.
    Around December 1932, Marian Rejewski of the Polish Cipher Bureau used the theory of permutations and flaws in the German military message procedures to break the message keys of the plugboard Enigma machine. Rejewski did that without knowing the machine wiring, so the result did not allow the Poles to read any messages. However, the French had a spy with access to German cipher materials that included the daily keys used in September and October 1932. Those keys included the plugboard settings. The French gave the material to the Poles, and Rejewski used some of that material and the message traffic in September and October to solve for the unknown rotor wiring. Consequently, the Poles were able to build their own Enigma machines, which were called Enigma doubles. Rejewski was aided by cryptanalysts Jerzy Rˇżycki and Henryk Zygalski, both of whom had been recruited with Rejewski from Poznań University. The Polish Cipher Bureau developed techniques to defeat the plugboard and find all components of the daily key, which enabled the Cipher Bureau to read the German's Enigma messages.

    On 26 and 27 July 1939,[4] in Pyry near Warsaw, the Poles initiated French and British military intelligence representatives into their Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment, including Zygalski sheets and the cryptologic bomb, and promised each delegation a Polish-reconstructed Enigma. The demonstration represented a vital basis for the later British continuation and effort.[5] During the war, British cryptologists decrypted a vast number of messages enciphered on Enigma. The intelligence gleaned from this source, codenamed "Ultra" by the British, was a substantial aid to the Allied war effort.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

    You're welcome.
    No worries. You guys should be proud of it, but it doesn't devalue Turings brilliance in building a system that could do it at scale. Same as w0lfies blathering doesn't devalue the western allies (which includes the poles) effort.

    Remember the 1st IPB.
    Well it could have been worse. You could have said McConaughey and Bon Jovi stole one from german submarine.

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    The only thing about the UK that is totally overrated and overhyped is their involvement in WW2. They basicely did nothing (a very important nothing, but still). 95% of that war was won in the east.
    >They did nothing
    >It was an important nothing

    Good to see you covering all bases for any potential reply.
    They did very little actual fighting, they just sat pretty on their island. Forcing hitler to spread thin in case they ever did do something and forcing 2 fronts, which was very important. But in actual fighting the war, they did not do much.


    If you go by how people actually talk about it and movies, games, tv shows in general youd always assume britain and the US "won" the war. In reality they did little bar stretch the nazis thin and allow the soviets to win. Without the east the UK (and probably the US) would have died instantly, while without the Uk and the US the war could still have gone either way. They "won" nothing, they just supported the winning side.
    Also "real time"** decoding of Hitlers email.

    ** real time should be read as operationally useful time. Still pretty impressive for dudes* using pre-vacuum tube technology.
    * dudes should be read as Turing.
    Around December 1932, Marian Rejewski of the Polish Cipher Bureau used the theory of permutations and flaws in the German military message procedures to break the message keys of the plugboard Enigma machine. Rejewski did that without knowing the machine wiring, so the result did not allow the Poles to read any messages. However, the French had a spy with access to German cipher materials that included the daily keys used in September and October 1932. Those keys included the plugboard settings. The French gave the material to the Poles, and Rejewski used some of that material and the message traffic in September and October to solve for the unknown rotor wiring. Consequently, the Poles were able to build their own Enigma machines, which were called Enigma doubles. Rejewski was aided by cryptanalysts Jerzy Rˇżycki and Henryk Zygalski, both of whom had been recruited with Rejewski from Poznań University. The Polish Cipher Bureau developed techniques to defeat the plugboard and find all components of the daily key, which enabled the Cipher Bureau to read the German's Enigma messages.

    On 26 and 27 July 1939,[4] in Pyry near Warsaw, the Poles initiated French and British military intelligence representatives into their Enigma-decryption techniques and equipment, including Zygalski sheets and the cryptologic bomb, and promised each delegation a Polish-reconstructed Enigma. The demonstration represented a vital basis for the later British continuation and effort.[5] During the war, British cryptologists decrypted a vast number of messages enciphered on Enigma. The intelligence gleaned from this source, codenamed "Ultra" by the British, was a substantial aid to the Allied war effort.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

    You're welcome.
    No worries. You guys should be proud of it, but it doesn't devalue Turings brilliance in building a system that could do it at scale. Same as w0lfies blathering doesn't devalue the western allies (which includes the poles) effort.

    Remember the 1st IPB.
    Well it could have been worse. You could have said McConaughey and Bon Jovi stole one from german submarine.
    I totally recognize the Polish guys. I realize the movie, etc have made their contribution "less" in the publics eyes, but those of us who understand the history, understand how important ALL the contributions where. This is always why I laugh at people who get weird about x contributed more to ww2 than y, because without many of the contributions, the whole thing wouldn't have worked. That's just a fact. The Polish cryptographers figured it out. Turing scaled it up, and a lot of people working in the ultra top secret effort during the war kept it going with some extraordinary effort. Team Effort. It should be celebrated, even if it did all get retarded after war.
    meh

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    The rational part of me obviously would hate ww3 but some tiny part of me would love it, just for the sake of the entertainment.
    Give us some examples of what will be entertaining, specifically.
    All the awesome videos that will be uploaded to youtube?
    Or the hilarious mass genocide and ethnic cleansing? That is always good for a giggle!
    Lol remember that time the Turks killed all those Armenians? Fun times, I hope thats the next bf1 map.
    Is Enver Pasha the worst general in the history of the Empire?


    Possibly
    Considering that you linked a picture of Indy... I'm surprised you don't think that Franz Conrad von H÷tzendorf should really hold the title of worst general of WW I ^^


    I autistically stopped myself from posting it since we were talking about the turks

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