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    The thing about "modesty" wear isn't so much the religious connection, but what it communicates to everyone else. "I need to cover myself because if I don't you will be unable to control yourself, you savage brute." Plus, the ownership aspect is creepy as all fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    No one is expending energy except Candy Crush in attempting to find ever more bizarre evidence to support his theory Europe has been taken over by foreign religions.
    Well, it is:
    Jews: Middle East = Non Europe - Check
    Christians: Middle East = Non Europe - Check
    Muslims: Middle East = Non Europe - Check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    'flaunting'. Really?

    the hyperbole m8
    Oh yes. That may not be her primary or even conscious motive. But when you have millions of eyes fixed on you in a television broadcast wearing a religious symbol dominantly placed on you head, it's flaunting either way.

    (and it doesn't matter if it's dominant or not. It does not belong infront of a television screen in this format).
    What if she wasn't Muslim but wearing a headscarf?
    If it wasn't there for religious reasons, I wonder if her employer would allow it in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    Should it be illegal for a news presenter to wear a necklace with the cross?
    Yes, offcourse? Why did you feel the need to even ask that question after reading what I've written in the last two pages? (Crosses are banned here too, btw. That's how it actually started).


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Also your argument reminds me of the arguments against female news presenters a few decades ago here in Germany
    Oh, do explain the correlation. I think that would be a very interesting read
    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/berghoff100.html

    Just read her first answer.

    You believe that wearing a headscarf means that their views cloud their opinion.
    That's not how I understand helgur. He believes (as do I) that openly showing any affiliation with an ideology (that's not restricted to religions, btw.) when presenting news (as weather is a part of), does defeat the very purpose of objective news.

    I mean, just look how seriously we take NK's news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmychrist View Post
    The thing about "modesty" wear isn't so much the religious connection, but what it communicates to everyone else. "I need to cover myself because if I don't you will be unable to control yourself, you savage brute." Plus, the ownership aspect is creepy as all fuck.
    I always found that argument really weird. If men are unable to control themselves when seeing women's hair, why should women cover it? It's not them that are inferiour, it's clearly the men. So the only logical solution is to scratch out the eyes of every muslim male - problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Just going to leave this here

    https://translate.google.com/transla...363&edit-text=

    Also, fuck off Razor
    Thanks for posting this nonsensical google translate mashup that no one can understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
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    Should it be illegal for a news presenter to wear a necklace with the cross?
    Yes, offcourse? Why did you feel the need to even ask that question after reading what I've written in the last two pages? (Crosses are banned here too, btw. That's how it actually started).


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Also your argument reminds me of the arguments against female news presenters a few decades ago here in Germany
    Oh, do explain the correlation. I think that would be a very interesting read
    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/berghoff100.html

    Just read her first answer.

    You believe that wearing a headscarf means that their views cloud their opinion.
    That's not how I understand helgur. He believes (as do I) that openly showing any affiliation with an ideology (that's not restricted to religions, btw.) when presenting news (as weather is a part of), does defeat the very purpose of objective news.

    I mean, just look how seriously we take NK's news.
    It's not an affiliation with an ideology though, it's a scarf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Should it be illegal for a news presenter to wear a necklace with the cross?
    Yes, offcourse? Why did you feel the need to even ask that question after reading what I've written in the last two pages? (Crosses are banned here too, btw. That's how it actually started).


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Also your argument reminds me of the arguments against female news presenters a few decades ago here in Germany
    Oh, do explain the correlation. I think that would be a very interesting read
    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/berghoff100.html

    Just read her first answer.

    You believe that wearing a headscarf means that their views cloud their opinion.
    That's not how I understand helgur. He believes (as do I) that openly showing any affiliation with an ideology (that's not restricted to religions, btw.) when presenting news (as weather is a part of), does defeat the very purpose of objective news.

    I mean, just look how seriously we take NK's news.
    It's not an affiliation with an ideology though, it's a scarf.
    Hijab isnt affiliated with Islam? Good to know
    go away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggbert View Post
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    Should it be illegal for a news presenter to wear a necklace with the cross?
    Yes, offcourse? Why did you feel the need to even ask that question after reading what I've written in the last two pages? (Crosses are banned here too, btw. That's how it actually started).


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Also your argument reminds me of the arguments against female news presenters a few decades ago here in Germany
    Oh, do explain the correlation. I think that would be a very interesting read
    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/berghoff100.html

    Just read her first answer.

    You believe that wearing a headscarf means that their views cloud their opinion.
    That's not how I understand helgur. He believes (as do I) that openly showing any affiliation with an ideology (that's not restricted to religions, btw.) when presenting news (as weather is a part of), does defeat the very purpose of objective news.

    I mean, just look how seriously we take NK's news.
    It's not an affiliation with an ideology though, it's a scarf.
    Hijab isnt affiliated with Islam? Good to know
    The colour red is affiliated with the Communist Party so should we also prevent newsreaders wearing red?

    The wearing of headscarves also predates Islam by several milennia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
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    Should it be illegal for a news presenter to wear a necklace with the cross?
    Yes, offcourse? Why did you feel the need to even ask that question after reading what I've written in the last two pages? (Crosses are banned here too, btw. That's how it actually started).


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Also your argument reminds me of the arguments against female news presenters a few decades ago here in Germany
    Oh, do explain the correlation. I think that would be a very interesting read
    https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/berghoff100.html

    Just read her first answer.

    You believe that wearing a headscarf means that their views cloud their opinion.
    That's not how I understand helgur. He believes (as do I) that openly showing any affiliation with an ideology (that's not restricted to religions, btw.) when presenting news (as weather is a part of), does defeat the very purpose of objective news.

    I mean, just look how seriously we take NK's news.
    It's not an affiliation with an ideology though, it's a scarf.
    Hijab isnt affiliated with Islam? Good to know
    The colour red is affiliated with the Communist Party so should we also prevent newsreaders wearing red?

    The wearing of headscarves also predates Islam by several milennia.
    Swastikas predate the Nazi party by millennia too, it has no affiliation to national socialism and is indeed a popular, neutral symbol for public officials to wear.
    go away

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    Suppose it was just a matter of time before this went full Godwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancehot View Post
    Suppose it was just a matter of time before this went full Godwin.
    Indeed

    At the end of the day, what a newscaster says is far more important than what they wear. Manji is able to present the news quite fine while wearing a headscarf, wheras numerous other people on the news who aren't wearing headscarves manage to be massive biased, propaganda spewing arseholes on a regular basis.

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    "It's just a headscarf m8, why do you hate headscarfs"

    -"No, it's actually not about headscarfs. <explains what it's about>"



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    "M8 why do you hate headscarfs. Also Godwin, lol"

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    Snownigs confirmed new kings of autism, finally stripping Germany of its crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post

    I always found that argument really weird. If men are unable to control themselves when seeing women's hair, why should women cover it? It's not them that are inferiour, it's clearly the men. So the only logical solution is to scratch out the eyes of every muslim male - problem solved.
    Clearly it should be good.

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    Gott im Himmel

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    Headscarves are not exclusively mulsim, of course. There are numerous, and quite recent, examples of cultures where headscarves are or were quite common. But it's undoubtedly so that islam, being a misogynistic religion, took to it with particular gusto -- adding a religious component to it. So not only will you shame yourself and your family, and risk getting stoned for your troubles, you're also going to hell forever.

    And while covering up women's bodies isn't exclusive to islamic cultures, they are the reigning, and it must be said unchallenged, world champions.

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    I dunno. I'm not allowed to go in to a store with a mask on so why should they be allowed to go in to stores and petrol stations with headscarfs?
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    - Smarnca if not trolling , is a complete retard

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    In short, you're prime beta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    I dunno. I'm not allowed to go in to a store with a mask on so why should they be allowed to go in to stores and petrol stations with headscarfs?
    A headscarf doesn't typically cover one's face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    I dunno. I'm not allowed to go in to a store with a mask on so why should they be allowed to go in to stores and petrol stations with headscarfs?
    A headscarf doesn't typically cover one's face.
    same thing really
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    In short, you're prime beta.

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