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    The cover up plays into the xenophobic narrative far more than the handful of migrant crimes themselves (handful compared to the number of crimes committed by non-migrants)

    I mean I have heard people who seriously think that even walking through a 'muslim ghetto' (really a low-income ghetto) is a ticket to getting stabbed and raped. Even the worst 'muslim ghetto' is nothing compared to some places in the Americas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    The cover up plays into the xenophobic narrative far more than the handful of migrant crimes themselves (handful compared to the number of crimes committed by non-migrants)

    I mean I have heard people who seriously think that even walking through a 'muslim ghetto' (really a low-income ghetto) is a ticket to getting stabbed and raped. Even the worst 'muslim ghetto' is nothing compared to some places in the Americas.
    Which in turn has nothing on really violent places like Johannesburg.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
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    There have been continouss reports about Germany and Sweden censoring migrant violance over last 3 to 4 years.



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    That's pretty much bullshit, if anything the opposite is true. More articles in recent years mentions descent when reporting on various crimes. At least in the media I read.


    Of course none of that really matters to right wingers. They'll believe there isn't enough stories in the news regardless.
    right wingers are convinced that urban strife or even civil war is about to break out anywhere with more than a handful of "muslamic infiltrators"
    I wouldnt call it censoring, selective reporting perhaps but even that is a stretch most of the times. That said, Sweden has had one clear case of established news media trying to bury a story and then lying about it in various ways. That also uncovered a bunch of similar incidents that had not really been reported or reported as something else when it was clearly not.
    I think what people take issue with that the main tag line is that there are no problems* at all, and in some cases using the argument that without immigrants/refugees the crime rate, type and victims would have been the same (i.e it would have been filled by native swedes).

    And maybe there are cases where news media is reporting the origin of the suspect its still kept extremely on the down low imho. Not saying one or the other is more true just my observation as is yours.

    * the word 'problem' was replaced with 'challenges', to the point of becoming ridiculous.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    The cover up plays into the xenophobic narrative far more than the handful of migrant crimes themselves (handful compared to the number of crimes committed by non-migrants)

    I mean I have heard people who seriously think that even walking through a 'muslim ghetto' (really a low-income ghetto) is a ticket to getting stabbed and raped. Even the worst 'muslim ghetto' is nothing compared to some places in the Americas.
    Which in turn has nothing on really violent places like Johannesburg.
    And the world was worse three hundred years ago but no one lives there any longer so what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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    It's the same shit as "look, crime rates in black areas are off the charts, all blacks are violent"

    gee, I wonder why those areas are of a low socioeconomic populace

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzajic View Post
    There have been continouss reports about Germany and Sweden censoring migrant violance over last 3 to 4 years.
    In Germany, there was a long time consense that the nationality/ethnicy of a suspect should not be mentioned in news. This has changed after the events on New Year's eve in Cologne, because the narritve on the right side of the political spectrum developed exactly wo what you state.

    Aside from the overall bad handling of the event and the reporting thereafter in the first place, one of the consequences both media and administartion came up with afterwards, is to drop the "no nationality in news coverage" part. It has been update to - paraphrased "mentioned if allegedly related to the event".

    And jut so nobody gets that wrong: those self-policies applied/apply to any event, i.e also for a racism-caused arson.

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