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    Quote Originally Posted by Overspark View Post
    Firefox isn't the problem, the embedded tweets work fine here.
    Not necessarily, that they're both having this issue with firefox makes me think the issue is with firefox. Maybe not an adblock plugin but some security setting itself within firefox is preventing twitter content from loading.

    It could be a million things on their or FHC ends, I'm leaning more their. I'll look into it. Two reports of people not loading twitter on one site using only firefox isn't much to go on, and I can't find anything of people having similar issues except for having blocked twitter with a security settting.

    57 is the most recent one right? I read they added a bunch of "security" stuff to protect people. Did this only start after you updated?
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  2. #622
    Think I found it. Do you have tracking protection set to Always in Firefox? I'm able to reproduce the issue with that set to always and no white-list. Disable protection on FHC and see if twitter loads now. Y'all are probably the few that would go and change that setting to Always which is why it's not widespread since default is only in private windows.

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    I have the same issue, the first two are of the form
    Code:
    lel<br>
    <br>
    <script type="text/javascript">
    function loadx(data) {
      document.write(data.html);
    }
    </script>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/oembed.json?id=...&amp;callback=loadx"></script>
    <div class="twitter" onload="loadx().html">
    </div>
    But the third is more simply
    Code:
    <img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcksYbWIQAAMm1u.jpg" alt="" border="0">
        ::before
    </img>
    That image URL works directly, but I can't see why uBlockOrigin or Cookie AutoDelete might actually be responsible for none displaying content in the posts. Possibly a more general denial of cookies for twitter domains? I know previously (FF56 & diff addon combo) that cookie denial caused directly viewing tweet pages to not work fully.

    And lol disabling Tracking Protection just to view an embedded tweet.

    How about instead the things at least get some decoration so a empty box is noticable?
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    Think I found it. Do you have tracking protection set to Always in Firefox? I'm able to reproduce the issue with that set to always and no white-list. Disable protection on FHC and see if twitter loads now. Y'all are probably the few that would go and change that setting to Always which is why it's not widespread since default is only in private windows.
    yes, disabling it shows tweets.

    thinking about putting it back on regardless tbh.
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    If you want to block content that tracks you I canít help if it doesnít load. The issue is on yíalls end, up to you what to do.


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    You/FHC can at least style the content so that it's noticable when the inner content hasn't loaded. Even a simple 1px thick border with 1px inner padding would work.

    And why the pbs.twimg.com img doesn't work should be different reasoning, it's not JS or containing a potential tracking ID, just the URL of the image.
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

  7. #627

    FHC Issues Thread

    Itís not noscript or adblocker, tracking protection is just a list from disconnect.me that blocks anything from loading on it. Twitters image server is on that list, retrieving content with JavaScript has nothing to do with it.

    Iíll reach out to Don about putting a border around them. He has some weird setup when you it comes to the css so I donít want to muck around it myself.


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    well, at least we know what breaks it, thanks for taking the time to look into it Spasm.

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    Ah that's why it works on my Firefox, I disabled the strict built-in tracking protection because I'm fully uBLock Origined up anyway, which is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    If you want to block content that tracks you I can’t help if it doesn’t load. The issue is on y’alls end, up to you what to do.


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    Tracking protection off for FHC fixed it for me too, nice one. Noticed twitter blockhappening on another vbulletin forum also, and it too was tracking protection being on. Good work chaps.

  11. #631
    Tbh, it's a dumb feature. If it really wanted to block tracking entirely, it would prevent twitter loading everywhere. But it doesn't prevent it on websites that have paid screened them, which obviously FHC hasn't. It's a feel good security measure that makes them some money to boot.
    Last edited by spasm; January 19 2018 at 09:08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    Tbh, it's a dumb feature. If it really wanted to block tracking entirely, it would prevent twitter loading everywhere. But it doesn't prevent it on websites that have paid screened them, which obviously FHC hasn't. It's a feel good security measure that makes them some money to boot.
    It's a lot like the "do not track" header. Ask the tracking services very nicely not to track you, and hope they obey. Of course none of them do. Act outraged. Watch as the tracking services use the presence of the "do not track" header as another bit of information for browser fingerprinting. Act surprised that your plan has backfired so completely. Keep sending the header, because reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAI Peregrinus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    Tbh, it's a dumb feature. If it really wanted to block tracking entirely, it would prevent twitter loading everywhere. But it doesn't prevent it on websites that have paid screened them, which obviously FHC hasn't. It's a feel good security measure that makes them some money to boot.
    It's a lot like the "do not track" header. Ask the tracking services very nicely not to track you, and hope they obey. Of course none of them do. Act outraged. Watch as the tracking services use the presence of the "do not track" header as another bit of information for browser fingerprinting. Act surprised that your plan has backfired so completely. Keep sending the header, because reasons.
    That was actually my first idea on a way to fix this, look for the header for tracking protection and display something else. But unlike donottrack, tracking protection doesn't have one. The only way to tell if it's on is to load something you know it blocks and look if the client failed to load it, but that isn't 100% accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    Think I found it. Do you have tracking protection set to Always in Firefox? I'm able to reproduce the issue with that set to always and no white-list. Disable protection on FHC and see if twitter loads now. Y'all are probably the few that would go and change that setting to Always which is why it's not widespread since default is only in private windows.
    Wow. that did it for me, too.

    I've never thought that this would be the issue, as Twitter itself works just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    Think I found it. Do you have tracking protection set to Always in Firefox? I'm able to reproduce the issue with that set to always and no white-list. Disable protection on FHC and see if twitter loads now. Y'all are probably the few that would go and change that setting to Always which is why it's not widespread since default is only in private windows.
    Wow. that did it for me, too.

    I've never thought that this would be the issue, as Twitter itself works just fine.
    Mozilla really needs to put a warning on that option. The support page for that option clearly states that "The strict list will break some videos, photo slideshows and some social networks." But of course no one is going to read the support page, so the warning should be on the option itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verite Rendition View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by spasm View Post
    Think I found it. Do you have tracking protection set to Always in Firefox? I'm able to reproduce the issue with that set to always and no white-list. Disable protection on FHC and see if twitter loads now. Y'all are probably the few that would go and change that setting to Always which is why it's not widespread since default is only in private windows.
    Wow. that did it for me, too.

    I've never thought that this would be the issue, as Twitter itself works just fine.
    Mozilla really needs to put a warning on that option. The support page for that option clearly states that "The strict list will break some videos, photo slideshows and some social networks." But of course no one is going to read the support page, so the warning should be on the option itself.
    I've even read the support page and still doubted that it's actually the cause of it.

    Like I said: Twitter itself works fine with FF, including all videos/images hosted from those various Twitter domains. OTOH, I do know that I blocked those "Tweet" & "Share with FB" etc. buttons on sites I visit on a regular basis. So my assumption was that I accidentically blocked something there that broke the Tweet plugin of vBulletin somehow.

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