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    Fanfest 2015: Ship and Module Balance

    Next up for module rebalance: MWDs, Afterburners, Shield Extenders, Armour Plates.

    Prediction: Oversized mods will be looked at.... but will stay in the game.

    Thoughts on the other announcements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
    Next up for module rebalance: MWDs, Afterburners, Shield Extenders, Armour Plates.

    Prediction: Oversized mods will be looked at.... but will stay in the game.

    Thoughts on the other announcements?
    The related fanfest presentation.

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    Stuff that was strongly hinted at during the ship balance roundtable:
    Missile rebalance
    Missile TDs
    AF buffs
    T3d nerfs
    AT ship rebalance
    Super caps and caps in general ofc
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    Rorqual stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Based Gorski Car View Post
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    We talked with rise about it and suggested a small change so you could reach cruiser warpspeed by sacrificing 1 rig slot, he seemed to like the idea. We also said that maybe reducing the overall spread of the warpspeed might be good (like making ceptors/frigs a bit smaller and caps/BS a bit faster).

    I also wouldnt be surprised if they take a look at damps, we agreed that they are quite strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Based Gorski Car View Post
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    We talked with rise about it and suggested a small change so you could reach cruiser warpspeed by sacrificing 1 rig slot, he seemed to like the idea. We also said that maybe reducing the overall spread of the warpspeed might be good (like making ceptors/frigs a bit smaller and caps/BS a bit faster).
    I like this; I've also been toying with the idea of baking MMJDs into the Combat Battlecruiser design (and maybe even into ABCs) possibly as part of breaking the relationship between BCs and links.

    I also wouldnt be surprised if they take a look at damps, after beating Serenity based on damp heavy set ups, we agreed that they are borderline OP.
    FYP (I know it was implied... but those 'Mericans cannot into subtle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Based Gorski Car View Post
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    We talked with rise about it and suggested a small change so you could reach cruiser warpspeed by sacrificing 1 rig slot, he seemed to like the idea. We also said that maybe reducing the overall spread of the warpspeed might be good (like making ceptors/frigs a bit smaller and caps/BS a bit faster).

    I also wouldnt be surprised if they take a look at damps, we agreed that they are quite strong.
    You realise you can do that now by using a t1 warp speed rig? It improves warp speed of a BC from 2.5 to 3.0 au/s. A cruisers warp speed is 3.0 au/s. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Based Gorski Car View Post
    Stuff that was strongly hinted at during the ship balance roundtable:
    Missile rebalance
    Missile TDs
    AF buffs
    T3d nerfs
    AT ship rebalance
    Super caps and caps in general ofc
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    Rorqual stuff
    Good list.

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    come oooooooon i hope they make faction plates not suck
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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Based Gorski Car View Post
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    We talked with rise about it and suggested a small change so you could reach cruiser warpspeed by sacrificing 1 rig slot, he seemed to like the idea. We also said that maybe reducing the overall spread of the warpspeed might be good (like making ceptors/frigs a bit smaller and caps/BS a bit faster).

    I also wouldnt be surprised if they take a look at damps, we agreed that they are quite strong.
    You realise you can do that now by using a t1 warp speed rig? It improves warp speed of a BC from 2.5 to 3.0 au/s. A cruisers warp speed is 3.0 au/s. =/
    The numbers in my head must have been bad then, i thought BCs go 2.25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amantus View Post
    come oooooooon i hope they make faction plates not suck
    ~ready to cash out all my syndicate lp for syndicate plates~


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    They should roll back the entire buffer HP buff they did back in (2005?).

    MINMATAR ALPHA KINGS AGAIN RIDE INTO THE SUN MY HURRICANE

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    Capitals could be a lot more interesting if they had a subsystem like t3 cruisers have. Allowing you to specialize in one field but be worse off in others and making room for a lot more setups, too many cookie cutter setups for capitals. Also heres hoping ccp keeps smaller alliances in mind when putting the nerf stick to supers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amantus View Post
    come oooooooon i hope they make faction plates not suck
    The return of the full Khanid Damnation ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesbones View Post
    They should roll back the entire buffer HP buff they did back in (2005?).

    MINMATAR ALPHA KINGS AGAIN RIDE INTO THE SUN MY HURRICANE
    To a significant extent, they already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vDJ View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Amantus View Post
    come oooooooon i hope they make faction plates not suck
    The return of the full Khanid Damnation ?
    alas there are no khanid plates
    MAX damage posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Foiritain View Post
    ~ready to cash out all my syndicate lp for syndicate plates~
    Didn't you cash it all out on syndicate cargo holds or whatever they rebalanced last?
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

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    I hope they give speed differences back to MWDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Based Gorski Car View Post
    Battlecruiser warp speeds
    We talked with rise about it and suggested a small change so you could reach cruiser warpspeed by sacrificing 1 rig slot, he seemed to like the idea. We also said that maybe reducing the overall spread of the warpspeed might be good (like making ceptors/frigs a bit smaller and caps/BS a bit faster).

    I also wouldnt be surprised if they take a look at damps, we agreed that they are quite strong.
    You realise you can do that now by using a t1 warp speed rig? It improves warp speed of a BC from 2.5 to 3.0 au/s. A cruisers warp speed is 3.0 au/s. =/
    The numbers in my head must have been bad then, i thought BCs go 2.25.
    Yeah, its a nerf to the bc class (option wise, slight buff isk wise)
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    A pure missile TD would be incredibly stupid. Fitting choices are good. Fitting roulette is not.

    Afterburners and microwarpdrives need a high-level examination, not just a balance pass. Actually, on-grid mobility in general needs an examination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexthor Hammerfists View Post
    Also heres hoping ccp keeps smaller alliances in mind when putting the nerf stick to supers.
    What does this even mean?

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