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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
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    France built a wall made of concrete and cannons. Didn't work.
    It did. It also worked very well for the Germans.

    Get good.


    Edit: I should negrep you for such an egregious lack of basic historical knowledge.
    The Germans just went around it. Very effective.

    We are talking about the Maginot Line here, right?
    They then repurposed it into a defensive position themselves. Which the Allies then mostly bi-passed.
    Lol Belgium.

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    waiting on someone to mention the mannerheim line

    Quote Originally Posted by Elriche Oshego View Post
    >not recognizing the purpose of a static defensive position

    yikes
    you mean rivers, marshes and mountains, right?

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    Russian TV vs. FoxNews. Which one is which?



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    Trick question. They are both Russian TV.

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    I've been thinking about them steel slat fences, and how easy it would be to scale by running a rope behind two or three slats.


    Definitely a fence with putting the coast guard and TSA on work without pay over.
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachesis VII View Post
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    Meanwhile; always keep an eye on the prize: a landslide against Trump and the GOP in 2020.
    The real prize is seating a third SCOTUS appointee. Everything else is irrelevant.
    It takes 51 votes in the Senate to expand the size of the Supreme Court or create new district and circuit-level judgeships. There’s already a compelling argument in favor of expanding the size of the federal judiciary given serious problems with case overload and delay of process.

    Schumer and Pelosi types might balk at the idea of court packing, but after the Garland/Gorsuch/Kavanaugh debacle, the next generation of Dem legislative leaders probably won’t.
    I got 99 judges and Kavanuagh is only one.

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    Looking at that steel fence. I guess every scrap dealer and junkyard owner "south of the border" is salivating at Trump literally gifting them billions in scrap steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    Oh really? There are atleast two countries in the world right now with walls that work very well




    There's also the zone between best and worst Korea

    Another super effective one from the recent history was the one that separated the oppressive commie regime from the free world
    The korean wall is a fence on each side separated by a km of complete artillery coverage and mines with soldiers standing guard on both sides shooting anyone who even comes close.

    So not really a wall.

    Also you're a dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
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    Oh really? There are atleast two countries in the world right now with walls that work very well




    There's also the zone between best and worst Korea

    Another super effective one from the recent history was the one that separated the oppressive commie regime from the free world
    The korean wall is a fence on each side separated by a km of complete artillery coverage and mines with soldiers standing guard on both sides shooting anyone who even comes close.

    So not really a wall.

    Also you're a dumb.
    If that's what it takes

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    in today's failheap watch: isyel struggling with concepts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    Oh really? There are atleast two countries in the world right now with walls that work very well




    There's also the zone between best and worst Korea

    Another super effective one from the recent history was the one that separated the oppressive commie regime from the free world
    The korean wall is a fence on each side separated by a km of complete artillery coverage and mines with soldiers standing guard on both sides shooting anyone who even comes close.

    So not really a wall.

    Also you're a dumb.
    If that's what it takes
    You could eliminate the wall from that scenario with negligible loss of efficiency vis--vis people crossing the border.

    Which is what the Democrats have been saying from the start of this shambles; They are happy to fund the people that guard the border, but an extension of the existing wall is pointless.

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    There was an interview with a border control guy who had just retired.

    When asked what he thought they needed the most, he said "communication devices that reliably work in remote areas, and equipment to track people who cross the border, like drones with infrared cameras"
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

    "You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
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    Oh really? There are atleast two countries in the world right now with walls that work very well




    There's also the zone between best and worst Korea

    Another super effective one from the recent history was the one that separated the oppressive commie regime from the free world
    The korean wall is a fence on each side separated by a km of complete artillery coverage and mines with soldiers standing guard on both sides shooting anyone who even comes close.

    So not really a wall.

    Also you're a dumb.
    If that's what it takes
    You could eliminate the wall from that scenario with negligible loss of efficiency vis--vis people crossing the border.

    Which is what the Democrats have been saying from the start of this shambles; They are happy to fund the people that guard the border, but an extension of the existing wall is pointless.
    But the giant baby wants his wall so fuck you all!
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    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    Fortifications are mandatory if you want to slow down an enemy and get mad initiative bonus.
    A horde of mexicans would pause for quite some time before a wall to scale or bypass it in other ways that would give you much more time to shoot them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
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    Oh really? There are atleast two countries in the world right now with walls that work very well




    There's also the zone between best and worst Korea

    Another super effective one from the recent history was the one that separated the oppressive commie regime from the free world
    The korean wall is a fence on each side separated by a km of complete artillery coverage and mines with soldiers standing guard on both sides shooting anyone who even comes close.

    So not really a wall.

    Also you're a dumb.
    If that's what it takes
    You could eliminate the wall from that scenario with negligible loss of efficiency vis--vis people crossing the border.

    Which is what the Democrats have been saying from the start of this shambles; They are happy to fund the people that guard the border, but an extension of the existing wall is pointless.
    This is the point I was making yes. Building an expensive wall is pointless when you can just do x or y that you'll have to do anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    A horde of mexicans
    Is that the correct pluralisation?

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    I think the correct pluralisation is 'cheap labour force'.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleResolve View Post
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    A horde of mexicans
    Is that the correct pluralisation?
    Swarm.
    Please don't teach me what to do with my pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
    Fortifications are mandatory if you want to slow down an enemy and get mad initiative bonus.
    A horde of mexicans would pause for quite some time before a wall to scale or bypass it in other ways that would give you much more time to shoot them.
    This is why the walls that do exist at the boarder are at the towns. They actually make sense there to act as a short term blocker for a large number of people. The towns themselves provide cover for a mass of people to group up without warning.

    Everywhere else, the walls are pointless. Small groups of people will slip over them undetected, while large groups would already be spotted long before they got to the border making the temporary delay of a wall pointless.

    This is the crux of it; There are already walls on the border where it makes sense to have walls.

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    I just want to point out, from a historical point of view, that even in 1940, the Hitlerites punched through the Maginot line relatively easy in the second phase of their invasion of France.

    Also, as for walls for keeping people out or in: the iron curtain wall, watchtowers, guns, mines and everything, was surprisingly permeable given the massive amount of money spend on building and maintaining it.

    And that's the point: value for money. And a wall is simply very very bad value for money, given the actual situation on the southern border. Because if Trump would actually build a wall to keep the Mexicans out; 5.7B won't cut it. He'd need at least 20B for a simple, no frills, just a wall. Probably more like 50B for an iron curtain type wall. The upkeep would be gigantic as well (those watchtowers need to be manned), we're talking billions every year. So he'll basically be spending about $50000+ per immigrant stopped every year. Increasing as well, as the number of immigrants into the US from the southern border has been dropping since 2000. Not that it would stop the influx mind you, because, you guessed it, the immigrants would just go round it.

    The whole 'wall' thing is just plain stupid. And it is only an issue because his handlers, when he just started running, needed something very very simple, otherwise he wouldn't remember it. So they hit upon a wall. A concept so basic, even Trump could understand.

    Anyway, the wall is completely pointless, and I'm glad the Democrats are sticking to their guns, hopefully making it the political millstone around Trumps neck.
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    Giving billionaires a tax cut is bad value for money as well. I'm not sure why you think value for money is a metric conservatives bother with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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