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    Some pro dick waving happening on Twitter.
    (Edit: oops already posted in jihad thread)

    Last edited by Dorvil Barranis; April 11 2018 at 04:43:23 PM.
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1HI1VA
    On Wednesday, four senators announced they would merge two different proposals to protect the office of the special counsel. The original bills were introduced last summer.

    If passed, the legislation would allow the special counsel to be fired only “for good cause” by a senior Justice Department official, with a reason given in writing; provide recourse if the special counsel was fired without good cause; and preserve the staffing and materials of a pending investigation.

    “We need to ensure not only that Special Counsel Mueller can complete his work without interference, but that special counsels in future investigations can, too,” Democratic Senator Chris Coons, one of the sponsors of the bill, said in a statement.

    It was unclear whether the proposed law would pass.

    On Tuesday, the Senate leader, Mitch McConnell, a Republican, said that while he thought Mueller should be allowed to continue his probe, he did not think legislation to protect him was necessary.

    McConnell’s spokesperson declined to comment on Wednesday.

    It also remains unclear whether the proposal could pass the House or that Trump would approve it.

    Spokespeople for McConnell and the White House did not immediately respond to emailed requests for comments.

    However, Coons said in an interview with MSNBC that he thought some Republicans, who currently have the majority in the Senate, could be swayed to back the bill.
    Hmm, intredasting. Word on the street is that Nunes wants to impeach Rosenstein and Wray.
    Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), a staunch supporter of Donald Trump, said on Tuesday night that he’s ready to begin impeachment proceedings. Just not against the president.

    Nunes told Fox News that he was ready to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in contempt of Congress for failing to provide documents related to the 2016 counterintelligence investigation into Russian interference in the election and possible ties to the Trump campaign.

    Nunes even appeared to give a deadline of Wednesday evening, warning it “will get really complicated” after that.

    “We’re not going to just hold in contempt,” he told Laura Ingraham. “We will have a plan to hold in contempt and to impeach.”

    “To impeach Christopher Wray?” Ingraham asked.

    “Absolutely,” Nunes replied.

    “Rod Rosenstein?”

    “We’re not messing around here.”

    Nunes also predicted it wouldn’t reach that point because the documents would be turned over.
    Can one even impeach them? Can Nunes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Some pro dick waving happening on Twitter.
    (Edit: oops already posted in jihad thread)

    Russia gained the casus belli: diplomatic insult.

    In Facebook news: GDPR (the new EU data privacy rules) will be extended to all users worldwide.

    https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/04...ted-worldwide/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    The ~35% of the country that wept for joy when they were finally given an openly racist president will never, ever admit that he's done any wrong, and any attempt to hold him responsible for his crimes will always be "witch hunting" to those people.
    A few years ago, this is exactly what every far-right loon said (about Obama), literally to the letter.

    It's amazing how often you unknowingly quote, nearly verbatim, far-right-wing people Malc.
    Yes, we're all familiar with the level of projection shown by the radical reactionaries, but as usual those with a passing acquaintence of the facts are well aware that Obama was constantly criticised by the left as well as the right. Just for things he actually did instead of things that Alex Jones imagined, or his hot dog condiment choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Links to actual story and confirmations please.

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    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

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    What a time we live in where the president of burgerstan is calling other world leaders animals on twitter

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    What's this I heard about the GOP now doing a 180 and essentially protecting Mueller by supporting legislation proposed by the Justice Committee?

    Is this Trump getting isolated by the party or just a political play? Or is it not really that significant?
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    I'll believe it when Turtle actually submits the bill up instead of letting it die in committee.
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

    "You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."


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    No idea if "they" Trumpies+Associates are getting desperate or just dangerously creative but if they follow through which what is laid out here:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...&noredirect=on
    the Investigation is dead.

    So a bill saving Mueller isn't enough it has to be extended to Rosenstein or make Mueller totally independent. Curious to see how the GOP will react if the Orange is firing Rosenstein and install a puppy who will cripple the investigation.

    Maybe Ryan will grow some spine after all now he announced he won't run again.
    Last edited by Jori McKie; April 12 2018 at 02:50:27 PM.

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    Listening to Bannon on this would be political suicide surely?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Listening to Bannon on this would be political suicide surely?
    What makes you think they care anymore?

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    Ass ass ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jori McKie View Post
    No idea if "they" Trumpies+Associates are getting desperate or just dangerously creative but if they follow through which what is laid out here:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...&noredirect=on
    the Investigation is dead.

    So a bill saving Mueller isn't enough it has to be extended to Rosenstein or make Mueller totally independent. Curious to see how the GOP will react if the Orange is firing Rosenstein and install a puppy who will cripple the investigation.

    Maybe Ryan will grow some spine after all now he announced he won't run again.
    I'm sure the right wing news organisations of America will be loudly outraged at this plan to extend the presidents powers and rights over and beyond that of all free God fearing arms bearing citizens of murcia. Small state is great!

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    It very funny that some of you think the Republican Party and Donald Trump are on the same side and one and the same.

    Makes for a great narrative, isn't remotely true. Elected establishment (R) hate Trump almost as much as the Dems do.

    There are a few Trumpies around in congress, no doubt, and they're often loud. But I guarantee you a poll of (R) elected officials would be materially in favor of anyone BUT Trump being the (R) President.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    It very funny that some of you think the Republican Party and Donald Trump are on the same side and one and the same.

    Makes for a great narrative, isn't remotely true. Elected establishment (R) hate Trump almost as much as the Dems do.

    There are a few Trumpies around in congress, no doubt, and they're often loud. But I guarantee you a poll of (R) elected officials would be materially in favor of anyone BUT Trump being the (R) President.
    I'm not sure there are many that think Trump is on the same side as the GOP. It simply doesn't matter, the GOP support Trump because he is in the whitehouse, elements of the GOP are batshit insane and support Trump because they like populism.

    Establishment GOP are stuck between a rock and a hard place, on the one hand they really don't want a democrat in the whitehouse, on the other hand they don't really want Trump either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    It very funny that some of you think the Republican Party and Donald Trump are on the same side and one and the same.

    Makes for a great narrative, isn't remotely true. Elected establishment (R) hate Trump almost as much as the Dems do.

    There are a few Trumpies around in congress, no doubt, and they're often loud. But I guarantee you a poll of (R) elected officials would be materially in favor of anyone BUT Trump being the (R) President.
    I'm not sure there are many that think Trump is on the same side as the GOP. It simply doesn't matter, the GOP support Trump because he is in the whitehouse, elements of the GOP are batshit insane and support Trump because they like populism.

    Establishment GOP are stuck between a rock and a hard place, on the one hand they really don't want a democrat in the whitehouse, on the other hand they don't really want Trump either.
    This.

    To me it seems that the GOP most likely saw him as a useful idiot, who - once in office, is easy to manipulate. Now that he made clear that he listens to nobody but himself (and FOX News), they have no idea of how to get the gini back into the bottle.

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