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    Are you including the New York prosecutors that ordered the raid on Cohen's office? Those aren't Federal, and confirmed Cohen had been under criminal investigation for months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Are you including the New York prosecutors that ordered the raid on Cohen's office? Those aren't Federal, and confirmed Cohen had been under criminal investigation for months.
    You mean this raid by the FBI? Or was there another one?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...ael-cohen.html

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    Ass ass ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    And what state-level crimes are being investigated?
    Funny you should mention that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    And what state-level crimes are being investigated?
    Funny you should mention that.
    Also:

    Earlier this week, Mr. Trump’s longtime fixer, Michael Cohen, scrapped his own legal team, as he faces an investigation by the United States attorney’s office in Manhattan.
    If that ties to Trump, and it no doubt will (he was, afterall, his longtime fixer), this is a state-level thing. He can't pardon himself out of that one either.

    And neither can he Cohen, and if he turns, well, then Trump is fuck ... with umbrella ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    And what state-level crimes are being investigated?
    Funny you should mention that.
    WTF is it with USA sites and not being able to do a search function unless you subscribe .......


    In any case my point was don't forget the Ivanka brand production line that got greenlighted by the Chinese for production in record time this week aswell. Nothing to do with Daddy, carry on citizen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartholomeus Crane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by elmicker View Post
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    And what state-level crimes are being investigated?
    Funny you should mention that.
    Also:

    Earlier this week, Mr. Trump’s longtime fixer, Michael Cohen, scrapped his own legal team, as he faces an investigation by the United States attorney’s office in Manhattan.
    If that ties to Trump, and it no doubt will (he was, afterall, his longtime fixer), this is a state-level thing. He can't pardon himself out of that one either.

    And neither can he Cohen, and if he turns, well, then Trump is fuck ... with umbrella ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    Maybe Trumps goal is to build a hotel in Pyongyang and move to North Korea after his term is over so he can't be extradited.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trump
    In a news conference following the summit, Trump also praised North Korea's beaches "from a real estate perspective." You can see that the country has great beaches "whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean," said Trump. He continued:

    I said, 'Boy, look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?' You could have the best hotels in the world right there. Think of it from a real estate perspective. You have South Korea, you have China and they own the land in the middle. How bad is that, right? It's great.
    https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/12/trump-kim-summit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Are you including the New York prosecutors that ordered the raid on Cohen's office? Those aren't Federal, and confirmed Cohen had been under criminal investigation for months.
    You mean this raid by the FBI? Or was there another one?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...ael-cohen.html
    Yes, that one. The FBI used a search warrent issued by the attorney general of the Southern District of New York. There was a reason that it happened that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruri View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Are you including the New York prosecutors that ordered the raid on Cohen's office? Those aren't Federal, and confirmed Cohen had been under criminal investigation for months.
    You mean this raid by the FBI? Or was there another one?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...ael-cohen.html
    Yes, that one. The FBI used a search warrent issued by the attorney general of the Southern District of New York. There was a reason that it happened that way.
    Right, but that's still a Federal investigation rather than a state-level one. That's not the NY AG, it's the AG of the District of NY.
    Totally not Victoria Stecker forgetting his password and not having access to his work email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    Maybe Trumps goal is to build a hotel in Pyongyang and move to North Korea after his term is over so he can't be extradited.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trump
    In a news conference following the summit, Trump also praised North Korea's beaches "from a real estate perspective." You can see that the country has great beaches "whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean," said Trump. He continued:

    I said, 'Boy, look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?' You could have the best hotels in the world right there. Think of it from a real estate perspective. You have South Korea, you have China and they own the land in the middle. How bad is that, right? It's great.
    https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/12/trump-kim-summit
    The audacity of mentioning seeing the beaches while they're 'exploding their cannons into the ocean' aside, luring a dictator into the world economy through tourism and real estate is not a bad idea.

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    So seems the IG Report has been fully leaked now, and CNN and more are writing articles about who it blames and what the results are.

    TLDR: No Political Bias is what CNN is reporting. Some fault for Comey and others for not staying within protocol, but a near full exoneration of the FBI et. al.

    So there you go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    So seems the IG Report has been fully leaked now, and CNN and more are writing articles about who it blames and what the results are.

    TLDR: No Political Bias is what CNN is reporting. Some fault for Comey and others for not staying within protocol, but a near full exoneration of the FBI et. al.

    So there you go.
    Is the general consensus amongst anyone not completely deluded that Comey fucked up on both sides. Was this a surprise to anyone?

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    I'm sure it's frustrating to be sperging about how someone said "no, not doing that yet" - but we've had 7 years to learn to pace ourselves after killing a block. And I dare say -- we've gotten quite good at it.

    Sorry if it doesn't suit the armchair generals who have never committed to anything for more than 2 months, but by now we've learned that we really don't give a shit about what you think v0v.

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    Great graphic, but it's also out of date at this point.

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    https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/s...101582336?s=19

    Ill give her that one, now back in the box!

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    Manafort just got his bail revoked. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...gation-n883596

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    Some classic Minnesota Ice: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/0...ms-johnson-gop
    Jeff Johnson has tried repeatedly to get Tim Pawlenty to pay attention to him.

    After Johnson secured the Republican endorsement at this month's state convention, the Hennepin County commissioner urged Pawlenty to exit the race. Johnson also invited Pawlenty to meet him in regular debates, which he doesn't expect will happen.

    "Nor did I expect for him to drop out when I called for him to drop out," Johnson, 51, said with a knowing chuckle.

    Pawlenty, 57, also laughed off the suggestion.

    "We don't live in Russia. This is a democracy. This is the United States of America," Pawlenty said in a ridiculing tone. "We allow people to vote without the Politburo telling people who can run and who can't run," he added, referencing the old Soviet Union political structure.

    Johnson even employed Pawlenty's former lieutenant governor, Carol Molnau, who offered a less than charitable view in a video aired at the Republican convention.

    "If there's one thing I can say about former Governor Pawlenty, it's that I had a lot of fun with him at the fishing openers," she said. "I wish him well, but I am not looking forward to seeing him in St. Paul."

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/0...hanol-policies

    Deep in the heart of Trump country, Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt is being met with protests by farmers and ethanol producers concerned that he is undermining the industry with his strong support of oil and gas.

    Their unhappiness is being broadcast on billboards, at rallies and in meetings the EPA chief is holding during a tour of heartland states, and comes as Pruitt battles a series of allegations of ethical misconduct back in Washington.

    The farmers argue that Pruitt's actions have hammered demand for ethanol, hurting both ethanol and corn prices. They want Pruitt to keep President Donald Trump's promises to support the ethanol industry.

    "Agriculture is not very happy with Mr. Pruitt at this point," said David Fremark, whose family grows about 11,000 acres (17.2 square miles) of corn, sorghum, soybeans and spring wheat near Miller, South Dakota.

    Corn producers — some arriving in a line of tractors — timed a rally in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, on Wednesday to coincide with Pruitt's visit to a farm in central South Dakota for a private meeting with farmers. Fremark was at the meeting.

    "He's done some good things, but this far and away overshadows everything he's done," Fremark said of the EPA administrator, a champion of regulation-cutting. "We're glad that he came out to hear what we have to say. But I think what we had to say fell on deaf ears. ... He's not acting like our friend."

    Pruitt, a Republican and the former attorney general of Oklahoma, also met with Kansas farmers Tuesday and was touring a large ethanol plant in Nebraska on Thursday.

    The farm-state trouble is adding to criticism of Pruitt from Republican lawmakers, growing numbers who already were joining Democrats in faulting the EPA head over allegations he has exploited his office for first-class travel, jobs for his wife and other perks.

    Trump "made this promise on ethanol," said Sen. Chuck Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said in a telephone interview. "But Pruitt is trying to break this promise."

    "We ain't going to be played for a sucker. And that's what they're trying to do," Grassley said of farm states, and oil and gas interests.

    Grassley's Iowa colleague, Republican Sen. Joni Ernst, told an energy group last week that Pruitt had lied to lawmakers on the ethanol issue, and added that Pruitt was "about as swampy as you get."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAI Peregrinus View Post
    Manafort just got his bail revoked. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-c...gation-n883596
    “Manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. But … I tell you, I feel a little badly about it.”
    Trump trying to claim that a guy who ran his campaign for 5 months, picked the VP, and was part of the transition team, had nothing to do with it.
    Totally not Victoria Stecker forgetting his password and not having access to his work email.

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    The sheer fact that anyone, ever, believes a single thing that Trump says is testament to the power of humanity's urge to wilful self-delusion

    is there anything he hasn't lied about that isn't him openly stating he's going to lie?
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