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    After Tillerson reportedly called Trump "a moron", Trump threatens to "compare the IQ tests"...

    President Trump in a new interview offered to compare IQ tests with Rex Tillerson after reports that the secretary of State had called him a "moron."

    "I think it's fake news, but if he did that, I guess we'll have to compare IQ tests," Trump told Forbes in an interview published Tuesday.

    "And I can tell you who is going to win."
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...r-moron-report

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    I would LOVE for someone to call Trump's bluff and actually have him take an IQ test on camera

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I would LOVE for someone to call Trump's bluff and actually have him take an IQ test on camera
    Trump would reply: "My doctor tested my IQ yesterday and it is 150 over 120!"

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    While I'm sure it's down to a lack of self-control rather than some 4th dimensional game of political chess but this morbid fascination that both the media and the public in regards to Trump's tweets that Trump himself probably forgets as soon as something else catches his attention allows a huge amount of far more important shit to get drowned out by all the tut-tut outraging and hurfing.

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    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Fuck off with that shite.


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    psure Liare is an actual ancap so this is to be expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    psure Liare is an actual ancap so this is to be expected
    Shut up you fucking centrist nazi.

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    I'm too stupid to say anything that deserves being in your magnificent signature.

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    please fuck off with the washington post links or start copy pasting the content Aea
    2/10/17 Greatposthellpurge never forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoffl View Post
    please fuck off with the washington post links or start copy pasting the content Aea
    L2 Subscribe / Google You Lazy Fuck <3.

      Spoiler:

    In 2015, Israeli government hackers saw something suspicious in the computers of a Moscow-based cybersecurity firm: hacking tools that could only have come from the National Security Agency.

    Israel notified the NSA, where alarmed officials immediately began a hunt for the breach, according to people familiar with the matter, who said an investigation by the agency revealed that the tools were in the possession of the Russian government.

    Israeli spies had found the hacking material on the network of Kaspersky Lab, the global anti-virus firm under a spotlight in the United States because of suspicions that its products facilitate Russian espionage.

    Last month, the Department of Homeland Security instructed federal civilian agencies to identify Kaspersky Lab software on their networks and remove it on the grounds that “the risk that the Russian government, whether acting on its own or in collaboration with Kaspersky, could capitalize on access provided by Kaspersky products to compromise federal information and information systems directly implicates U.S. national security.” The directive followed a decision by the General Services Administration to remove Kaspersky from its list of approved vendors. And lawmakers on Capitol Hill are considering a governmentwide ban.

    The NSA declined to comment on the Israeli discovery, which was first reported by the New York Times.

    Kaspersky said in a statement that “as a private company, Kaspersky Lab does not have inappropriate ties to any government, including Russia, and the only conclusion seems to be that Kaspersky Lab is caught in the middle of a geopolitical fight.” The company said it “does not possess any knowledge” of Israel’s hack.

    The firm’s founder, Eugene Kaspersky, said in a blog post last week that his anti-virus software is supposed to find malware from all quarters.

    “We absolutely and aggressively detect and clean malware infections no matter the source,” he wrote, suggesting that the NSA hacking tools could have been picked up as malware by the anti-virus program.

    In the 2015 case, investigators at the NSA examining how the Russians obtained the material eventually narrowed their search to an employee in the agency’s elite Tailored Access Operations division, which comprises hackers who collect intelligence about foreign targets. The employee was using Kaspersky anti-virus software on his home computer, according to the people familiar with the matter.

    The employee, whose name has not been made public and is under investigation by federal prosecutors, did not intend to pass the material to a foreign adversary. “There wasn’t any malice,” said one person familiar with the case, who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing case. “It’s just that he was trying to complete the mission, and he needed the tools to do it.”

    Concerns about Kaspersky have also emerged in the cybersecurity industry, where some officials say that the firm’s software has been used not just to protect its customers’ computers but also as a platform for espionage.

    Over the past several years, the firm has on occasion used a standard industry technique that detects computer viruses but can also be employed to identify information and other data not related to malware, according to two industry officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information.

    The tool is called “silent signatures” — strings of digital code that operate in stealth to find malware but which could also be written to search computers for potential classified documents, using keywords or acronyms.

    “Silent detection is a widely adopted cybersecurity industry practice used to verify malware detections and minimize false positives,” the company’s statement said. “It enables cybersecurity vendors to offer the most up-to-date protection without bothering users with constant on-screen alerts.”

    Kaspersky is also the only major anti-virus firm whose data is routed through Russian Internet service providers subject to Russian surveillance. That surveillance system is known as the SORM, or the System of Operative-Investigative Measures.

    The company said that customer data flowing through Kaspersky’s Russian servers is encrypted and that the firm does not decrypt it for the government.

    Andrei Soldatov, a Russian surveillance expert and author of “The Red Web,” said, “I would be very, very skeptical” of the claim that the government cannot read the firm’s data. As an entity that deals with encrypted information, Kaspersky must obtain a license from the FSB, the country’s powerful security service, he noted, which “means your company is completely transparent” to the FSB.

    It is not publicly known how the Russians obtained the NSA hacking tools in 2015. Some information security analysts have speculated that the Russians exploited a flaw in Kaspersky software to filch the material.

    But other experts say the Russians would not need to hack Kaspersky’s systems. They say that the material could be picked up through the country’s surveillance regime.

    The firm is likely to be beholden to the Kremlin, said Steven Hall, who ran the CIA’s Russia operations for 30 years. He said that Kaspersky’s line of work is of particular interest to Russian President Vladi*mir Putin and that because of the way things work in Russia, Eugene Kaspersky “knows he’s at the mercy of Putin.”

    “The case against Kaspersky Lab is overwhelming,” said Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), a vocal critic of Kaspersky who has pushed to remove the company’s software from federal networks. “The strong ties between Kaspersky Lab and the Kremlin are very alarming.”

    The federal government has increasingly conveyed its concerns about Kaspersky to the private sector. Over at least the past two years, the FBI has notified major companies, including in the energy and financial sectors, about the risks of using Kaspersky software. The briefings have elaborated on the risks of espionage, sabotage and supply-chain attacks that could be enabled through use of the software. They also explained the surveillance law that enables the Russian government to see data coursing through its domestic pipes.

    “That’s the crux of the matter,” said one industry official who received the briefing. “Whether Kaspersky is working directly for the Russian government or not doesn’t matter; their Internet service providers are subject to monitoring. So virtually anything shared with Kaspersky could become the property of the Russian government.”

    Late last month, the National Intelligence Council completed a classified report that it shared with NATO allies concluding that the FSB had “probable access” to Kaspersky customer databases and source code. That access, it concluded, could help enable cyberattacks against U.S. government, commercial and industrial control networks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aea View Post
    Fuck off with that shite.


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    no

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    psure Liare is an actual ancap so this is to be expected
    Shut up you fucking centrist nazi.
    centrists aren't nazis, if i was cynical i'd argue they are nazi enablers, but i am usually not.

    Xeno is just obsessed with virtue signalling.
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liare View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Aea View Post
    Fuck off with that shite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    psure Liare is an actual ancap so this is to be expected
    Shut up you fucking centrist nazi.
    centrists aren't nazis, if i was cynical i'd argue they are nazi enablers, but i am usually not.

    Xeno is just obsessed with virtue signalling.
    It's just that these days a lot of them spout things more appropriate to "nazis" inadvertently, many of our beloved centrists here included at times. Doesn't mean they are, at all, but it does make me wonder wtf they're thinking if at all.

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    I think you and I have very different definitions of the word "many".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
    I think you and I have very different definitions of the word "many".
    Nah.

    I think centrism has become a byword for the type of unthinking, overtonewindow-drifting, hyper-complacent mindset that may or may not see ill's in the world, but can not accept the desire, or even the likelihood of, social and political change, because... of venezuela (or insert any dominant counter progressive meme here)

    The strengths of centrism, (being able to listen to both sides, and competence) have disintegrated as they have confused wealth, with merit, and allowed capital to hold the megaphone.

    Of late, they have been happy to appease fringes (as long as they are right wing fringes), are still coming to terms with the death of neoliberalism and the fact that their movement (if to squat comfortably between any ideology could be called so.) has become a dirty word, on both sides.

    If you strongly disagree any of the above describes your mindset, then, you're probably not a centrist.
    Last edited by Pattern; October 11 2017 at 09:23:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    It's just that these days a lot of them spout things more appropriate to "nazis" inadvertently, many of our beloved centrists here included at times. Doesn't mean they are, at all, but it does make me wonder wtf they're thinking if at all.

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    when your world-view is dominated by FYGM, fuck the poors and a concrete conviction that the world is inherently just, thinking is obviously not something you spend a lot of time on, hence why they get a pass.

    i do wish they'd fucking shut up instead of ranting and raving about how evil anything left of center apparently is, without comprehending the underlying reason, ideologies or objectives in the policies discussed.

    politically speaking i am almost as far from Marxist leninists as i am from actual neo-nazis, but i still get lumped in with the former because COMMUNISM!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
    I think you and I have very different definitions of the word "many".
    Nah.

    I think centrism has become a byword for the type of unthinking, overtonewindow-drifting, hyper-complacent mindset that may or may not see ill's in the world, but can not accept the desire, or even the likelihood of, social and political change, because... of venezuela (or insert any dominant counter progressive meme here)

    The strengths of centrism, (being able to listen to both sides, and competence) have disintegrated as they have confused wealth, with merit, and allowed capital to hold the megaphone.

    Of late, they have been happy to appease fringes (as long as they are right wing fringes), are still coming to terms with the death of neoliberalism and the fact that their movement (if to squat comfortably between any ideology could be called so.) has become a dirty word, on both sides.

    If you strongly disagree any of the above describes your mindset, then, you're probably not a centrist.
    Centrism never listened to the left Pattern, that is a myth, nor do they have a monopoly on competent governance.

    likewise, they never confused wealth with merit, they view wealth AS merit and feel that, because they aren't getting face-stomped by the iron boot of capitalism, things aren't bad and anybody who disagree should be shouted down.

    i am half-expecting to see the red scare reappear in America precisely because of these people, and i am surprised Trump is not pushing it harder, it would be a perfectly rational choice at this point to combine it with escalating tensions with North Korea.

    fan the flames a bit and he can get his political opponents to do his persecution for him and his proto-fascist movement.
    Last edited by Liare; October 11 2017 at 10:54:51 AM.
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Rumata View Post
    After Tillerson reportedly called Trump "a moron", Trump threatens to "compare the IQ tests"...
    Mensa steps up
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

    "You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."


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    joke's on you I was only pretending to be retarded

    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

    "You give me the awful impression - I hate to have to say - of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position. Ever."


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