With regards to impeachment, what does it actually take? Do you actually have to be a criminal? Or is it enough to just be shit. Or can even a competent president get impeached if he gets enough senate/house detractors?
I wonder how much that man will hurt the republican party if he actually gets to sit out his term.
Halfway expecting everyone to whenever there is a election go "remember Trump", then vote democrats or not vote at all just to avoid risking this happening ever again.
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The energy industry and oil & gas will be the main vehicle for blue collar job recovery. I can't really blame them either, even if the global consequences will be nasty. 2008 really turned a slow downturn of rural areas into a crushing depression that is still ongoing today. Just look at the spreading heroin epidemic for symptoms of whats happening today. Of course people are only going to care about themselves in such circumstances
I think this may be the president that finally kills the gop
Trump saved 70K coal jobs his first month. Impressive considering there's less than 100K coal jobs in total.
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The trial then moves to the Senate, where the 100 members vote on the charges and decide whether or not to remove the President from office. If 60 votes (a supermajority) are in favor of removal, the President is immediately stripped of all powers and thrown out of office.
Two Presidents have been impeached: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Neither was removed from office. Impeachment proceedings were underway against Richard Nixon, but he resigned before there were any votes.
edit: set the record straight
The most common instances of flouridide poisoning in countries with fluoridation is kids swallowing toothpaste.
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Leftists saying that the Dems want war with Russia? I bet they have ties to Russia!
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../pers-f25.htmlThe political impasse caused by the subordination of the working class to the Democratic Party and the two-party system, reinforced by the corporatist trade unions, has fueled the frustrations and dashed hopes that foster anti-social acts, from mass shootings to drug addiction.
Once again, there is a concentrated attempt to divert and dissipate social opposition by channeling it behind the Democratic Party, whose central preoccupation is creating the conditions for war against Russia. The urgent lesson that must be drawn is the need to reject all such efforts and break decisively from the Democratic Party and all parties and politicians of the capitalist class.
It would be a dangerous precedent to impeach a president just because "you don't like him" though. In Clintons case they had him on lying to congress which ofc a president shouldn't do.
If he is to be impeached they're going to need something tangiable or open Pandoras box for future presidents. It's not going to happen though, Trump is giving the nutters free reign and will rubberstamp anything they manage to pass onto his desk. No way they'll get rid of him as he's taking away all the attention and scrutiny from them. They're getting away with everything at the moment so why stop?
Depending on what information is turned up and verified regarding collaboration between Trump and Russia during the campaign (if Russia delivered opposition material to Trump or actively undermined Democratic efforts at his request, especially) and if indeed Trump is interfering with an FBI investigation into these allegations, then impeachment is a no-brainer. The charges would read almost exactly like the articles filed against Nixon, apart from some of the actors being different.
I think the Republicans might even play along for a couple reasons:
1) it's the only way to save even the veneer of integrity as a governing entity. Protecting their brand is their only consistent position.
2) Pence will rubber stamp the whole conservative agenda, and also work to dismantle government the Republican way instead of the Steve Bannon way.
I give it a 50/50 chance that Republicans would help impeach (or more likely select just a sufficient number of their most vulnerable representatives to put the vote over the requisite percent.) I also give the Democrats a 50/50 chance of doing the initial filing of the Articles of Impeachment. Like, I know that enough voters are uninvolved enough with politics that if Bush 43 had been impeached they'd have thought to themselves "oh, I guess the Dems just wanted revenge for the Clinton impeachment", and I think this is why Pelosi said the idea was "off the table" in 2006.
The mendacity and bloody consequences of Bush's repeated lies and the use of Federal agencies to back up the lies never even mattered because the Democrats were more worried about the long-term political consequences impeachment might bring. I'm not going to argue my position on this here and now though. My main point is that the Democrats may need to man up very soon, and I'm only sort of sure they actually will.
Also an erratum for a post earlier on this page, it was Andrew Johnson (Lincoln's successor) who was impeached in the House, not Andrew Jackson (Trail of Tears.) Edit: already addressed
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