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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post

    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    He sounds like a fucking idiot.

    Progressive liberalism isn't socialism or even left wing. It's centrism built around the concept of assuaging bourgeois guilt by accumulating social capital.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Well it loaded with Chrome and uBlock but an annoying pop up window prevented me from viewing the article.

    Now after reading your copy pasta it seems some wannabe reporter made news out of literally nothing again just like that time "the media" were freaking out because of covfefe

    Now fuck off shill
    This from the guy who gets all his news from Facebook, and is only capable of insults and shit-tier memes.
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    WTF I hate white people now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    You should give me his name. I'll call in and give him an earful full of first world, especially American privilege, even if you are black, compared to third world privilege, even if you were born rich and white (I'm guilty of one of these).
    meh

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    There's a whole host of privileges enjoyed by various demographics which affect access to economic and cultural capital.

    The discussion of them isn't particularly useful; especially if you're trying to guilt individuals. Privileges are a spook used as a tool for lazy and dishonest social critique.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    You should give me his name. I'll call in and give him an earful full of first world, especially American privilege, even if you are black, compared to third world privilege, even if you were born rich and white (I'm guilty of one of these).
    It's not even that, the sad part is this 'progressive' is using absolute terms to describe social problems, and his statements leave no leeway for discussion. In essence he's an ideological fascist, not progressive.


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    Not just an anonymous source now #shithole

    Also, can we stop our obsession with labeling each other and actually discuss shit workout personal, presumptive attacks?
    Actually an '06.

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    He's just an idiot tbh
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post
    Not just an anonymous source now #shithole

    Also, can we stop our obsession with labeling each other and actually discuss shit workout personal, presumptive attacks?
    Slovenia is a shithole and so is Croatia and Austria

    Am I a racist now?
    Blowing dumb shit way out of proportions... again

    While we're at it. Those countries should ask themselves why they are shitholes and stop blaming senór Trump for everything. Atleast he's someone who says it like it is without wrapping it in cellophane like most other politicians do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    Are you one of those people who think that evolution isn't proven because it is "just a theory"


    No, mate.

    Were you trying to make a point?


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    I think he was trying to discuss shit workout personal, presumptive attacks.
    "Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Zhuge Liang


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    Are you one of those people who think that evolution isn't proven because it is "just a theory"


    No, mate.

    Were you trying to make a point?
    I was, which is that there are words or terms that have a general conversational meaning, and a specific technical one which is often very different. "Theory" is one such word. Applying the critical skills you learned while gaining your 3 degrees, can you infer what another such example might be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    Are you one of those people who think that evolution isn't proven because it is "just a theory"


    No, mate.

    Were you trying to make a point?
    I was, which is that there are words or terms that have a general conversational meaning, and a specific technical one which is often very different. "Theory" is one such word. Applying the critical skills you learned while gaining your 3 degrees, can you infer what another such example might be?
    Ah, so you think the host didn't really mean what the words he was using mean, he was just being "conversational".

    Yeah.


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    Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) said Friday that his fellow South Carolina Sen. Lindsay Graham (R), who attended a bipartisan meeting with President Trump and lawmakers Thursday, confirmed a Washington Post account of Trump's remarks calling Haiti, El Salvador and some African nations "shithole countries."




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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Slovenia is a shithole
    So what you are saying is that Trump married someone from a shithole?
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
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    Don't read this thread (I assume its as stupid as the Brexit thread) but this is a pretty thoughtful piece from Politico about Democrats in middle America

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...indiana-216273
    CE in only participating in echo chambers non-shocker

    edit: That article basically boils down to 'it's the economy stupid'. Democrats spend most of their time sitting in an ivory tower talking about social issues which a lot of Americans either don't care about or feel alienated by. The right plays off this with standard reactionary politics.

    If the Democrats addressed deep rooted economic problems they'd upset their donors, so that won't happen. Even though addressing economic problems will make it massively easier to massage the social tensions that exist in America.
    I was listening to progressive radio on my ride in this morning. It was a typical show.

    The host told us that every white person is a racist. That white people by definition cannot NOT be racist.

    He told us that all white people, even the most destitute poor white person, still enjoys a massive privilege because they are white.

    He told us that racism is white supremacy only. That there is no other form of racism in the world, that the two terms, racism and white are synonymous.

    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    Are you one of those people who think that evolution isn't proven because it is "just a theory"


    No, mate.

    Were you trying to make a point?
    I was, which is that there are words or terms that have a general conversational meaning, and a specific technical one which is often very different. "Theory" is one such word. Applying the critical skills you learned while gaining your 3 degrees, can you infer what another such example might be?
    Ah, so you think the host didn't really mean what the words he was using mean, he was just being "conversational".

    Yeah.
    You were so close to an honest discussion there. better luck next time, ofay pig.
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    If you think this is the kind of thing that will win Democrats elections, well, good luck.
    I honestly doubt it said any of that.

    Got the shows name? I thought I was reading T_D but its just Alistair.
    I'm sure it's frustrating to be sperging about how someone said "no, not doing that yet" - but we've had 7 years to learn to pace ourselves after killing a block. And I dare say -- we've gotten quite good at it.

    Sorry if it doesn't suit the armchair generals who have never committed to anything for more than 2 months, but by now we've learned that we really don't give a shit about what you think v0v.

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    Trump rejects senators' bipartisan 'Dreamer' immigration plan

    http://flip.it/3AHSaI
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