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    [Speculation] Phoebe Ship Changes

    So in the latest devblog was this mentioned:
    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Greyscale
    We will be releasing a collection of other smaller changes in Phoebe that will be of interest to many of the same people who are affected by these travel changes. These include a rebalance of starbase weapons, a rebalance of stealth bombers and heavy interdictors, enabling of lowsec doomsdays, and changes to interdictor bubble mechanics. More information to come.
    Any ideas what might be ahead of us here?

    Some random brainfarts i had:
    - transform bombers into anti-captial-ships?
    - HIC bubbles prevent caps to use gates?

    I think it will be stuff that directly corelates with the jumpdrive changes.

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    For POS shit, I'd wager more damage out of the gun, and hopefully they get rid of CPU crashing when the tower goes reinforced, so ewar & shit works while reinforced.

    Bombers, not sure, maybe an anti cap bomb with huge damage and correspondingly huge sig

    HIC, I think whom ever it was that suggested that they would remove the no-remote-assistance flag during the focused point is probably correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    For POS shit, I'd wager more damage out of the gun, and hopefully they get rid of CPU crashing when the tower goes reinforced, so ewar & shit works while reinforced.
    More like remove CPU requirements from POS missiles and then buff them to make them remotely worth anchoring.

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    Hopefully the the bomber change is the actual bombing nerf.

    Dictor changing has to be hobojamming nerf.

    Hictor change is probably preventing caps from using gates?

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    Whats hobojamming btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Whats hobojamming btw?
    Apparently some one thought it was a great idea to completely remove bubble agro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Hustlin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
    Whats hobojamming btw?
    Apparently some one thought it was a great idea to completely remove bubble agro
    Ah, i guess thats the NPC station camping thing, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eshnala View Post
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    Whats hobojamming btw?
    Apparently some one thought it was a great idea to completely remove bubble agro
    Ah, i guess thats the NPC station camping thing, right?
    Correct. Bubbling and docking before becoming vulnerable. Rinse and repeat.

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    Yeah i can see why that needs to go.

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    Speculation: this means that recon rebalancing gets put off again

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    Starbase weapons: make the name match the ammo size (or vice versa)

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    I wonder if this means the end of dickstars.
    Contract stuff to Seraphina Amaranth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glyken Touchon View Post
    Starbase weapons: make the name match the ammo size (or vice versa)
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    I imagine Hictors are going to get either some sort of RR assistance with focused point or a percentage of their capacitor be immune to being neuted. If they do go and allow RR I think they would only do a percentage of the effectiveness. Say each rep/transfer/etc is only 20% effective. I don't think they will do anything with the focused point. Other than that they will just do the standard fitting, slots, etc rebalance.

    As far as bombers I think we can expect the CCP stated bomb nerf. So you will need more waves of fewer people to do the same damage. I would hope that they do give them more slots/more fitting so you might be able to actually fit a buffer tank and/or T2 torp launchers.

    Dictors will get a hobojamming nerf.

    POS mods: I would love to see navy faction towers and mods. I think this would be a great way to add LP items of value. Other than that... Maybe dropping CPU use on missile launchers. Fixing size ammo/guns like others brought up. Nothing terribly awesome.

    Lowsec DD? Absolutely brilliant. Been a long time coming. Now titan pilots can lose their Titans by drive by DDing ships in lowsec.

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    I don't get why hictors need the allow remote assistance flag changed? Supercaps are already getting nerfed to hell, making it so a single hictor with a couple of guardians can tackle one all day long until your fleet comes from halfway across the galaxy is retarded.

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    Hictors getting cheaper would be nice. It would be cool if they were closer to HAC prices instead of command ship priced.

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    A terrible idea:

    Bombers get t2 resists. Their base buffer is so low this shouldn't cause too many issues.

    Move a mid to a low on the nemesis and purifier.

    Up bomber fittings.

    Up bomb launcher fitting requirements, change bombs for an anti-capital role, but have trouble applying damage to subcaps.

    The new bomber fittings and resists mean that, if a bomb launcher is not fit, they can post respectable torp damage without being instantly alpha'd off the field by anything that can field drones and/or track frigates.

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    Reduce bomb damage but make it so each bomber loads a clip of bombs with reduced delay between each launch?
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    With null fleets having to slowboat everywhere now nerfing bombs needs to happen more than ever. Not that it's enough to make people use BSs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Reduce bomb damage but make it so each bomber loads a clip of bombs with reduced delay between each launch?
    Reduced bomb damage just means larger bomber wings. Reduced splash range might be the way to do it

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