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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
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    i suggested lubuntu because it is actually light weight and based on ubuntu thus it is very stable.
    Ubuntu on the other hand is as heavy as windows7 aso it makes for me little sense to put it even on moderately old PC.
    This is funny because Win7 is actually lighter than XP.. It just needs a tone more disk space because it puts everything on the drive in case you install it later...
    I would not say lighter if it requires more ram... it is far faster and snapier because of that (superfetch and such). Ram is important for speedy OS.
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    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormscion View Post
    i suggested lubuntu because it is actually light weight and based on ubuntu thus it is very stable.
    Ubuntu on the other hand is as heavy as windows7 aso it makes for me little sense to put it even on moderately old PC.
    Because it's free and his mom won't fill it with viruses even if she tries. I guess it depends on how old is old.

    Granted win7 is also "free" if you do it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    *golf clap* You're exactly the best person to set up a computer for someone's mom. I'd have to get popcorn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    *golf clap* You're exactly the best person to set up a computer for someone's mom. I'd have to get popcorn.
    Why not install plan-9 on her desktop while his at it :S

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    Again, thanks for the ongoing input.

    To put an end to the "get her an tablet/chromebook/mac" suggestions: my parents might actually buy themselves a tablet, as they like playing around with mine, whenever I bring it. But this will be in addition to the current hardware. As for now, I'm looking at an interim solution for an oldish machine. They even might completely drop it in 6 month.

    From the suggestions I take away that I'll look at Mint and Lubuntu.

    @GiDiYi: I wasn't the one coming up with suggesting Linux, my parents approached me with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frug View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    *golf clap* You're exactly the best person to set up a computer for someone's mom. I'd have to get popcorn.
    I know, make it as simple as possible to do the daily tasks, and fuck everything else.

    Unless of course you assume she'll be compiling her own kernels and shit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    *golf clap* You're exactly the best person to set up a computer for someone's mom. I'd have to get popcorn.
    I know, make it as simple as possible to do the daily tasks, and fuck everything else.

    Unless of course you assume she'll be compiling her own kernels and shit....
    Gentoo or bust?

    (lived through that hell for about 4 years)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    *golf clap* You're exactly the best person to set up a computer for someone's mom. I'd have to get popcorn.
    I know, make it as simple as possible to do the daily tasks, and fuck everything else.

    Unless of course you assume she'll be compiling her own kernels and shit....
    Gentoo or bust?

    (lived through that hell for about 4 years)

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    When I first dabbled in Linux i got recommended Gentoo.

    BIG SURPRISE I DIDNT TAKE A SECOND LOOK FOR ANOTHER 5 YEARS.


    

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    Still cant type emerge without a shiver going down my spine (there it is..) crew checking in.

    It actually wasn't that bad from a clean install. Do the boot thing, compile everything, be awesome, runs nice, compile the apps (in this case its was MythTV) set it up, all is good.

    Then there was a new version of something and things started to go down hill. Compile new version of a library, its broken myth, recompile myth, didnt help, unmask new version of myth, better but that's broken a plugin, unmask new version of a different library to fix that, its broken the remote control apps, unmask the new version of them, all working now? looks good right? Errr.... If I ignore all of the errors in the logs everything looks like its working fine. That'll do as I've been recompiling for 4 days now..

    4 days later, ooo a new kernel that might fix my errors.. Nope, just killed my hardware support for the video card im using.. Known error.. Fuck.. How do I downgrade again? Shit, it has recompiled the compiler and now I cant..

    As soon as the debian myth project people had even close to the version i was running i swapped that shit out and never went back.
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    /NoteToSelf: Ignore Gentoo for the time being ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    /NoteToSelf: Ignore Gentoo forever ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frug View Post
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    /NoteToSelf: Ignore Gentoo forever ...
    Its OK as a learning tool. You can make it work in production, but it takes a good process. To run on my desktop at home, fuck no.

    Honestly, Ubuntu is actually a good choice here.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    You do need to make it so you can't just say "if not fo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuackBot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    XFCE and minimal desktop install should do it for pretty much any distro.

    Just stay away from the bloated gnome/kde/derp stuff.
    You do need to make it so you can't just say "if not fo.
    Pretty sure we all agree gentoo's 'just make it' isn't worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffinsrevenger View Post
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    Chromebook?
    This, get her a cheap and shiny new chromebook for like no money what so ever, show her the internet button and add her mail account
    bam
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    lived happily ever after
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    /NoteToSelf: Ignore Gentoo forever ...
    Its OK as a learning tool. You can make it work in production, but it takes a good process. To run on my desktop at home, fuck no.

    Honestly, Ubuntu is actually a good choice here.
    I wouldn't even consider Gentoo a good learning tool. Almost everything I learnt from it was specific to its way of doing things. Sure, I now know how to optimize a compiler for an Athlon64, and unmask tools you need to get things done, get 32bit libraries working in an x64 environment, etc etc, but almost off of this is either so niche that im never going to use it, or better distros do it automatically for you.

    Nothing particularly wrong with Ubuntu except I don't like their choice of defaults (and they went though a period of not giving you alternatives, are they still doing that?)
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    I use Debian 7 (aka Sid aka Testing aka Jessie) on my dev laptop and Debian 6 (Wheezy aka Stable) on my server. It's pretty awesome. "checkinstall" is an awesome tool that makes .deb packages from your manually compiled applications, so switching version and cleanly uninstalling them is a breeze. I've had less issues with it than when I was on Kubuntu in 2007-2009, but I'm sure (K)Ubuntu is better now. Back then drivers were such a mess.

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