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    There are still a lot of games that need proper CPU power and a Zen2 Quad Core can't cut it there.
    What? There's nothing weak about a mobile Zen2 quad core. It's not a threadripper, or an i9, sure but it his that entry level (gaming, not just a facebook machine) with aplomb as far as a CPU goes.
    In the context of playing random things in 720p I'm sure that CPU is enough, but simply the "mobile" part is laughable in saying "there's nothing weak" about it. It is a mobile CPU, designed for low TDP rather than the performance that a desktop CPU can output (obviously with proper cooling). It's not Intel Atom, but it isn't PC gaming levels of performance. It does the job, but that's about it, I'm unsure that when connected to an external display or around the 300th turn in Civ V it wouldn't just keel over a bit

    Don't get me wrong, the Deck is pretty neato, but let's not overstate what it's capable of. I'm pretty sure that running Linux was part of optimizing its performance in games since Windows tends to hog system resources quite a bit.
    What chip would you regard as entry level for PC gaming today?



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    Isn't 5g just going to put the processing power in the cloud and games will be streamed to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Isn't 5g just going to put the processing power in the cloud and games will be streamed to you?
    I'm skeptical that the much improved 5G latency will be the whole answer to streamed games services. The boast about it being a boon for games is typically just about lowering gameplay lag than streaming the whole thing.

    We're yet to see real world everyday wide use of the tech, a few tens of millions of smartphones use it but it's not out in the suburbs connecting many PCs in any useful numbers



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    One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halka View Post
    One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.
    It uses DDR5 which is intrinsically dual-32bit. So the 2 8GB DDR5 DIMMS are therefore quad channel 32 bit.

    DDR5 is a some of a step up from DDR4 not just in total bandwidth from more MT/s, which is always nice, but in stuff like being able to be read from and written to simultaneously, partly because of that dual channelness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.
    It uses DDR5 which is intrinsically dual-32bit. So the 2 8GB DDR5 DIMMS are therefore quad channel 32 bit.

    DDR5 is a some of a step up from DDR4 not just in total bandwidth from more MT/s, which is always nice, but in stuff like being able to be read from and written to simultaneously, partly because of that dual channelness.
    LPDDR5 is not the same as DDR5



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    Quote Originally Posted by whispous View Post
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    One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.
    It uses DDR5 which is intrinsically dual-32bit. So the 2 8GB DDR5 DIMMS are therefore quad channel 32 bit.

    DDR5 is a some of a step up from DDR4 not just in total bandwidth from more MT/s, which is always nice, but in stuff like being able to be read from and written to simultaneously, partly because of that dual channelness.
    LPDDR5 is not the same as DDR5
    It's also not available in 4GB DIMMS afaik.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPDDR#LPDDR5 for further nerdfood, IDC.
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