"It just works" Linux aka "Anything better than Ubuntu?"

[whispous]

There are still a lot of games that need proper CPU power and a Zen2 Quad Core can't cut it there.

What? There's nothing weak about a mobile Zen2 quad core. It's not a threadripper, or an i9, sure but it his that entry level (gaming, not just a facebook machine) with aplomb as far as a CPU goes.

In the context of playing random things in 720p I'm sure that CPU is enough, but simply the "mobile" part is laughable in saying "there's nothing weak" about it. It is a mobile CPU, designed for low TDP rather than the performance that a desktop CPU can output (obviously with proper cooling). It's not Intel Atom, but it isn't PC gaming levels of performance. It does the job, but that's about it, I'm unsure that when connected to an external display or around the 300th turn in Civ V it wouldn't just keel over a bit

Don't get me wrong, the Deck is pretty neato, but let's not overstate what it's capable of. I'm pretty sure that running Linux was part of optimizing its performance in games since Windows tends to hog system resources quite a bit.

What chip would you regard as entry level for PC gaming today?

[Keckers]

Isn't 5g just going to put the processing power in the cloud and games will be streamed to you?

[whispous]

Isn't 5g just going to put the processing power in the cloud and games will be streamed to you?

I'm skeptical that the much improved 5G latency will be the whole answer to streamed games services. The boast about it being a boon for games is typically just about lowering gameplay lag than streaming the whole thing.

We're yet to see real world everyday wide use of the tech, a few tens of millions of smartphones use it but it's not out in the suburbs connecting many PCs in any useful numbers

[halka]

One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.

[Malcanis]

One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.

It uses DDR5 which is intrinsically dual-32bit. So the 2 8GB DDR5 DIMMS are therefore quad channel 32 bit.

DDR5 is a some of a step up from DDR4 not just in total bandwidth from more MT/s, which is always nice, but in stuff like being able to be read from and written to simultaneously, partly because of that dual channelness.

[whispous]

One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.

It uses DDR5 which is intrinsically dual-32bit. So the 2 8GB DDR5 DIMMS are therefore quad channel 32 bit.

DDR5 is a some of a step up from DDR4 not just in total bandwidth from more MT/s, which is always nice, but in stuff like being able to be read from and written to simultaneously, partly because of that dual channelness.

LPDDR5 is not the same as DDR5

[Malcanis]

One piece of information that I've found kind of neat is that the Deck uses quad-channel memory, which is generally a high-end kind of deal. That improved bandwidth the APU can use might go some ways towards offsetting the low wattage.

It uses DDR5 which is intrinsically dual-32bit. So the 2 8GB DDR5 DIMMS are therefore quad channel 32 bit.

DDR5 is a some of a step up from DDR4 not just in total bandwidth from more MT/s, which is always nice, but in stuff like being able to be read from and written to simultaneously, partly because of that dual channelness.

LPDDR5 is not the same as DDR5

It's also not available in 4GB DIMMS afaik.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPDDR#LPDDR5 for further nerdfood, IDC.

[Mashie Saldana]

It had to happen.

/dev/md0:
           Version : 1.2
     Creation Time : Sun Jun 30 22:27:54 2019
        Raid Level : raid6
        Array Size : 117194416128 (111765.30 GiB 120007.08 GB)
     Used Dev Size : 9766201344 (9313.78 GiB 10000.59 GB)
      Raid Devices : 14
     Total Devices : 14
       Persistence : Superblock is persistent

     Intent Bitmap : Internal

       Update Time : Mon Nov  1 09:24:16 2021
             State : clean 
    Active Devices : 14
   Working Devices : 14
    Failed Devices : 0
     Spare Devices : 0

            Layout : left-symmetric
        Chunk Size : 512K

Consistency Policy : bitmap

              Name : IONE:0  (local to host IONE)
              UUID : 1f8e4385:3ef16ed6:20147617:818d417e
            Events : 215885

    Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
       0       8      193        0      active sync   /dev/sdm1
       1       8      209        1      active sync   /dev/sdn1
       2       8      225        2      active sync   /dev/sdo1
       3       8       17        3      active sync   /dev/sdb1
       4       8      161        4      active sync   /dev/sdk1
       6       8       97        5      active sync   /dev/sdg1
       5       8      177        6      active sync   /dev/sdl1
       7       8      145        7      active sync   /dev/sdj1
       9       8       81        8      active sync   /dev/sdf1
       8       8      129        9      active sync   /dev/sdi1
      11       8      113       10      active sync   /dev/sdh1
      10       8       65       11      active sync   /dev/sde1
      13       8       49       12      active sync   /dev/sdd1
      12       8       33       13      active sync   /dev/sdc1

[Cosmin]

Is that 117TB?

[Mashie Saldana]

It is but ext4 steals another 8TB unfortunately:

Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0        109T   67T   38T  65% /mnt/storage

[Malcanis]

Oh it finally finished building and you can use it now?

Grats!

[Mashie Saldana]

Oh it finally finished building and you can use it now?

Grats!

Lol no, it takes about 72h to expand the array. I had pretty much filled up the 10x10TB so recently added another 4x10TB and a new shiny LSI 3905-24i controller to not rely on the onboard SATA ports going forward. The mobo/CPU is from 2015 so due for an upgrade at some stage and this will make it an easier lift and shift when the day comes and it can go to 24 drives without using SAS expanders (which would scale to 1024 drives)

[Daneel Trevize]

One day this could be you

[Cosmin]

I just found out about libimobiledevice, so the iPhone sync issues are completely solved, as well as gaining direct access to the phone. Absolutely stoked, now I can leisurely migrate my parents fully onto Linux.

[walrus]

I just found out about libimobiledevice, so the iPhone sync issues are completely solved, as well as gaining direct access to the phone. Absolutely stoked, now I can leisurely migrate my parents fully onto Linux.

I'm sure they are just as stoked as you are!

[helgur]

Getting my parents onto Linux when they barely can use Windows is a sure recipe frustration for everyone. At least me that have to be on standby every time they have an issue they are unfamiliar with. Not touching that with a 10ft pole.

[halka]

I'm not sure the use-case of "click here for internet" is sufficiently different on Linux to warrant any worries.

[Cosmin]

I'm not sure the use-case of "click here for internet" is sufficiently different on Linux to warrant any worries.

Basically this.

My parents have absolutely no interest in what OS runs their browser/email client. The only problem was a means for the OS to interact with the phone for the exceedingly rare situations where it may be necessary.

[Daneel Trevize]

Getting my parents onto Linux when they barely can use Windows is a sure recipe frustration for everyone. At least me that have to be on standby every time they have an issue they are unfamiliar with. Not touching that with a 10ft pole.

They almost certainly use *nix TVs, phones and tablets already.

[whispous]

Getting my parents onto Linux when they barely can use Windows is a sure recipe frustration for everyone. At least me that have to be on standby every time they have an issue they are unfamiliar with. Not touching that with a 10ft pole.

They almost certainly use *nix TVs, phones and tablets already.

Absolutely disingenuously irrelevant and you know it!