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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    I see all the retards are out again...

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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.
    you realise you're going to have to out-nazi the nazi's to make that happen, right ?
    Viking, n.:
    1. Daring Scandinavian seafarers, explorers, adventurers, entrepreneurs world-famous for their aggressive, nautical import business, highly leveraged takeovers and blue eyes.
    2. Bloodthirsty sea pirates who ravaged northern Europe beginning in the 9th century.

    Hagar's note: The first definition is much preferred; the second is used only by malcontents, the envious, and disgruntled owners of waterfront property.

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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.
    you realise you're going to have to out-nazi the nazi's to make that happen, right ?
    The nazis are on the list too. I'm ambitious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.
    Sooooooo, Trump supporters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.
    you realise you're going to have to out-nazi the nazi's to make that happen, right ?
    The nazis are on the list too. I'm ambitious.
    People who have actually been shooting guns in the forests vs LGBTXXXXYRHFHSHFHSUAPZ ok let's do it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.
    you realise you're going to have to out-nazi the nazi's to make that happen, right ?
    The nazis are on the list too. I'm ambitious.
    Iím in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    Someone teach the American Antifa how to properly Antifa.

    Jeez that's horrendous to watch.

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    If we ever end up in another civil war, I want to go around culling from the general population anyone who believes in any of the following: moon landings faked, September 11th inside job, vaccines case autism, earth is flat, chemtrails, Obama birthers, sovreign citizens, mass shootings are faked, and a whole bunch of other stupid bullshit that I can't think of right now. I figure regardless of which side wins, whatever comes after will be better off without those folks anyway.
    you realise you're going to have to out-nazi the nazi's to make that happen, right ?
    The nazis are on the list too. I'm ambitious.
    People who have actually been shooting guns in the forests vs LGBTXXXXYRHFHSHFHSUAPZ ok let's do it
    You should probably check out some of my posts in the gun fred before you start getting all dismissive there, Paco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianeces View Post
    You should probably check out some of my posts in the gun fred before you start getting all dismissive there, Paco.
    Just have to clone yourself about 100000 times now, mate.

    I don't wager rednecks know anything about actual warfare but they do have loads of guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazoR View Post
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    You should probably check out some of my posts in the gun fred before you start getting all dismissive there, Paco.
    Just have to clone yourself about 100000 times now, mate.

    I don't wager rednecks know anything about actual warfare but they do have loads of guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    Why do centrists enable runaway capitalism, in your opinion?
    They have no incentives to address economic inequality before it reaches crisis point. There is no centrist ideological imperative to curtail the excesses of capitalism, just as long as 'just enough' scraps trickle under the table they can guarantee short term growth.
    What about the incentive of "believing economic inequality is bad for everyone"? The WHOLE of the centrist ideological imperative is focused around the concept of curtailing the excesses of capitalism, that's literally what it means to be a centrist (the belief that the market is the best way to allocate most resources, but that the market needs to be regulated to do so efficiently/without negative social impact)

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    I thought if you touch the buxflow with anything shorter than 10-foot pole you are basically a communist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post

    What about the incentive of "believing economic inequality is bad for everyone"? The WHOLE of the centrist ideological imperative is focused around the concept of curtailing the excesses of capitalism, that's literally what it means to be a centrist (the belief that the market is the best way to allocate most resources, but that the market needs to be regulated to do so efficiently/without negative social impact)
    That's what centrist marketing says. The operating principles of centrism suggest otherwise.

    Believing 'economic' inequality is bad still indicates you build society around prioritising economic and monetary interests instead of social outcomes.
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    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
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    To further muddy the waters, some also consider your class to be what you were born into rather than what you achieve.

    It's very easy to have someone who is middle-class and poor using that definition, or working class and wealthy (sup).
    No one uses this definition in the US. There is no baggage about where and to whom you were born. This is a very U.K. thing, from my experience.
    This is so fucking hilariously wrong, at least at the very top end (think: Summer in Martha's Vineyard). For old money where and to whom you were born matters a very great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
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    What about the incentive of "believing economic inequality is bad for everyone"? The WHOLE of the centrist ideological imperative is focused around the concept of curtailing the excesses of capitalism, that's literally what it means to be a centrist (the belief that the market is the best way to allocate most resources, but that the market needs to be regulated to do so efficiently/without negative social impact)
    That's what centrist marketing says. The operating principles of centrism suggest otherwise.

    Believing 'economic' inequality is bad still indicates you build society around prioritising economic and monetary interests instead of social outcomes.
    I too can invent made up definitions for labels to win arguments. From now on, whatever label you ascribe to yourself actually means "secretly in favour of genocide; equality through killing everyone but the in-group".

    PS: equality IS an economic and monetary "interest". Social outcomes flow from the economic and monetary opportunities available to people. True equality means equality of opportunity (and essential in this is that the opportunity is structurally and contextually equal and not merely nominally or superficially equal).


    PPS: There's no point in you pretending to be interested in debate if you simply arbitrarily posit alternate, prejudicial defintions to every ideology that isnt yours. Your argument comes down to "NUH UHHH"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
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    What about the incentive of "believing economic inequality is bad for everyone"? The WHOLE of the centrist ideological imperative is focused around the concept of curtailing the excesses of capitalism, that's literally what it means to be a centrist (the belief that the market is the best way to allocate most resources, but that the market needs to be regulated to do so efficiently/without negative social impact)
    That's what centrist marketing says. The operating principles of centrism suggest otherwise.

    Believing 'economic' inequality is bad still indicates you build society around prioritising economic and monetary interests instead of social outcomes.
    I too can invent made up definitions for labels to win arguments. From now on, whatever label you ascribe to yourself actually means "secretly in favour of genocide; equality through killing everyone but the in-group".
    >secretly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
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    What about the incentive of "believing economic inequality is bad for everyone"? The WHOLE of the centrist ideological imperative is focused around the concept of curtailing the excesses of capitalism, that's literally what it means to be a centrist (the belief that the market is the best way to allocate most resources, but that the market needs to be regulated to do so efficiently/without negative social impact)
    That's what centrist marketing says. The operating principles of centrism suggest otherwise.

    Believing 'economic' inequality is bad still indicates you build society around prioritising economic and monetary interests instead of social outcomes.
    I too can invent made up definitions for labels to win arguments. From now on, whatever label you ascribe to yourself actually means "secretly in favour of genocide; equality through killing everyone but the in-group".

    PS: equality IS an economic and monetary "interest". Social outcomes flow from the economic and monetary opportunities available to people. True equality means equality of opportunity (and essential in this is that the opportunity is structurally and contextually equal and not merely nominally or superficially equal).


    PPS: There's no point in you pretending to be interested in debate if you simply arbitrarily posit alternate, prejudicial defintions to every ideology that isnt yours. Your argument comes down to "NUH UHHH"
    What's the centrist position on land hoarding and rent seeking then?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    I can't speak to it, I'm a radical centrist not a centrist.
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    As a radical centrist what's your position on the rise of private landlords and buy-to-let as a middle class investment vehicle?

    Because given enough specific examples you'll probably end up as a Democratic Socialist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    I can't speak to it, I'm a radical centrist not a centrist.
    "I think that’s a term invented by people who regard centrism as the status quo place," says the former prime minister, sitting in his central London office, very much aware of the label popularised by some Jeremy Corbyn supporters on Twitter in reference to their internal Labour opponents.

    "If you define centrism as splitting the difference between right and left then I'm not a centrist. I’m not interested in that," adds Blair, who has just finished recording a podcast with former Barack Obama adviser David Axelrod. "I define centrism as the place where you want solutions that are radical but still realistic and non-ideological because they’re practical."
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