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    i *think* it was the cheaper of the links, but i'm poking at armybuilder and can't see some of the weapon loadouts - there was a spitfire, missile launcher, medic + 2 shotguns. Joan was separate along with a blackjack and a couple of order monkeys. The blackjack ate a unlucky crit from the Charontid of all things and joan got smeared by the same dude eating a full burst3 of Plasma - that went as well as it usually does.

    The only times i've seen it really work are with last-turn TO-Camo objective grabbing - sneaky little ninjas - it's pretty dicey especially when you are running such a fragile list.
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    Fersen + Hospitallier + Magister link. Do you mean black frier?

    Military Orders───────────────────────────────────────────── ─────7 3 JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 49) DE FERSEN Spitfire / Pistol, Templar CCW (AP + Shock). (2 | 58) KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (MediKit) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 41) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 22) MAGISTER KNIGHT Panzerfaust, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 22) MAGISTER KNIGHT Missile Launcher / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 32) BLACK FRIAR MULTI Sniper, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 30) 5.5 SWC | 254 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    Those are some pretty large eggs he had in his basket.

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    Ah yes - that's about it. good spots.
    DeFersen wandered into a repeater and got involved in a hacking competition with a Legate HD+ & Shrouded AHD which went about as well as expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortalitis View Post
    Deploying first and going second has never turned out well, just asking for a bully-ramming. How big was the HI link? Could easily have been 70% of his points on it if it was a full hospitallier link with or without Joan/Fersen.

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    Honestly I think Iniative should choose deployment order AND turn order.

    Ie you get to to choose Table Edge or Deploy First, Go First or Deploy Second, Go Second. Would make it more of a choice rather than I choose deployment (and get to go second anyway).

    Played my mates LI CHA list in Trans Matrix. Wulvers are stupid: here have this 10W link shoved down your throat and no, you can't hack it.

    Beat it the sneaky Nomad way: walked Carlotta on, blew up a building, cleared out a Repeater and then Spotlighted the Unc SAS FO. Why yes, I will have 6OPs.

    Next game played Aleph. Highlights:
    Kriza got Crit and died my second order to a Proxy Mk5 HRL.

    KHD Interventor got Blackouted in ARO.

    Taskmaster Lt killing Eudorus in 1 burst and only rolling a 2 to hit (Eudorus rolled a 1 to Smoke).

    Taskmaster Lt getting deleted by a single burst of TR HMG fire (in my Reactive).

    Iso'd and IMM-1'd Ajax and then walked a Zondbot and Zondcat into B2B. When he activated due Extremely Impetuous I Electric Pulsed him. Take that CC monster!

    Ramboing a Moran: no cover, through a Sat Zone. I can see a Dual SMG Proxy, a Yudbot and the TR Bot. Split my burst 3 ways: kill the Yudbot, wound the Proxy and kill the TR bot with a Crit. I am become Death!
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    in still not 100% sure you infinity lot are even speaking english :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
    in still not 100% sure you infinity lot are even speaking english :P
    Honestly the jargon and spreadsheets are on the same level as EVE. Slightly more gradual learning curve though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
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    in still not 100% sure you infinity lot are even speaking english :P
    Honestly the jargon and spreadsheets are on the same level as EVE. Slightly more gradual learning curve though.
    Hmm. The Learning curve does remind me of Eve.

    Tutorials == Tutorials. Start off thinking Crikey this is cool - ok, new rules dripped in - cool. i got this.
    150pt NoHackign game = belting in highsec / running missions blah blah. Complex but manageable.

    Then you go though a Lowsec gate == early 300pt games. Then you have the tournament scene of nullsec

    Honestly I think Iniative should choose deployment order AND turn order.
    Player agency is too big a thing in Infinity for this to really work IMO. If the opponent chooses side B and 'deploy second'; then the WIP roll loser still has some agency to control rather than a "1 dice to win it all" scenario. Losing the roll then putting your opponent into a possibly super-strong possibly weaker if you play your cards right position adds a bit t the game i feel.
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    The problem is the missions being written so going 2nd is a legitimate choice for some of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortalitis View Post
    The problem is the missions being written so going 2nd is a legitimate choice for some of them.

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    That's kinda my point: choosing Table Edge or Turn Order (which is also deployment order) makes it fairer. Rather than umm I choose to make you deploy first (so you usually choose to go first) AND get to pick deployment side.

    It'd make 'I choose second' a legit choice; but would give up the choice for table edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortalitis View Post
    The problem is the missions being written so going 2nd is a legitimate choice for some of them.

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    That's kinda my point: choosing Table Edge or Turn Order (which is also deployment order) makes it fairer. Rather than umm I choose to make you deploy first (so you usually choose to go first) AND get to pick deployment side.

    It'd make 'I choose second' a legit choice; but would give up the choice for table edge.
    Yeah, I agree. Was a bit of a tounge in cheek comment from me. On the other hand if deployment order was flipped people would need to remember to make boards are uneven so it makes table edge still a valuable choice.

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    I like the way it's set up now. Even if you rig the board for your army and win the Roll, you can still get the shit end of the stick either trying to be clever or flat-out shot.
    It adds chaos and variety to a game that thrives on variety and chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itiken View Post
    I like the way it's set up now. Even if you rig the board for your army and win the Roll, you can still get the shit end of the stick either trying to be clever or flat-out shot.
    It adds chaos and variety to a game that thrives on variety and chaos.
    And the army.

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    Heres another super slow update on my death guard for 40k.

















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    like the style you're going for :3 feel like the colour scheme needs more contrast though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itiken View Post
    Player agency is too big a thing in Infinity for this to really work IMO. If the opponent chooses side B and 'deploy second'; then the WIP roll loser still has some agency to control rather than a "1 dice to win it all" scenario. Losing the roll then putting your opponent into a possibly super-strong possibly weaker if you play your cards right position adds a bit t the game i feel.
    Just play the game of thrones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome View Post
    like the style you're going for :3 feel like the colour scheme needs more contrast though?
    im trying for a John blache style but with a very muted limted palette for the marines my cultists are all over the places with greens, reds, browns, yellows.

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    Whilst working on more than one model this weekend I noticed I assembled parts of the Hurricane wrong.

    With the manual opened.

    Ikr.

    So basically the morons who made the manual didn't actually write wtf is happening there. So I mounted the exhausts on a support (the way you'd do if you'd have the bonnet closed thus no engine inside) whilst at the same time assembling the V12. The only issue is I have now to take apart the exhausts from the support I mounted them on and stick them on the engine.

    Who was the genius who thought putting a question mark next to stuff would be understandable as "this is an alternate way of mounting shit".

    FML.

    Will proceed and construct a hybrid -> basically with the engine in, but slightly exposed. Will probably swear 15 minutes without repeating myself whilst trying to recuperate the exhausts from where I stuck them momentarily.

    Wish me luck.

    Oh and I'm 90% done with a model of a Skyline GT-R R32 from Tamiya. Shit kit tbh, had to manually adjust parts like crazy. Whoever thought that the wheel mounts need a spacer that's not properly glueable without any guidelines whatsoever but needs to be perfectly aligned or else the wheel won't be able to be put in place is a monumental dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome View Post
    like the style you're going for :3 feel like the colour scheme needs more contrast though?
    im trying for a John blache style but with a very muted limted palette for the marines my cultists are all over the places with greens, reds, browns, yellows.
    bit too neat for blanchitsu, you need to get liberal with the washes

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    Well I just had to cancel my place at the UK Infinity Masters tournament thanks to my car failing it's MOT and the following £300 bill to get it back on the road. Guess I won't be getting the few bits I need to 'finish' my Kings of War Undead army.

    In other news the new ITS pack is causing a bit of a shit storm with the Soldiers of Fortune add on. Mainly people freaking out that PanO can take smoke chuckers, which isn't even that bad considering most factions have some way of doing that dirty trick. Don't think they realise its an optional extra and probably won't see that much use. To be fair I am more exciting that SoF allows PanO to take a Kaplan Engineer with ADHL. PanO really need a 2nd engineer profile, with the new mission that just gives models ADHL for free and the objective is to immobilise people I feel having a shitty AVA-1 engineer is just grating.

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    Our meta has collectively shrugged at PanO with smoke. Honestly they were probably winning most of those exchanges anyway.

    We see Joan + 4 YY + 2 Warcors as a bigger issue. You can still fit a Kaplan Engineer after that if you want (and a SMG Bashi).

    PanOceania
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    2 8 4
    WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8)
    YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8)
    KAPLAN Engineer Combi Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12)
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    0 SWC | 132 Points

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    If you use the add on for fun NP, but it's hardly balanced. Added to the mission redesign and TAG buff tis the Season for PanO.

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