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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    Tfw i'm a leftist all of a sudden

    I'm not excusing the extremists, but to assume that those extremists make up a majority of the largest body of people on earth is batshit insane and if it were even remotely true we'd all be dead, wouldn't we?
    I guess it depends on how you define extremism. I think there are certainly very large swathes that do not subscribe to some basic western values.

    On the other hand I don’t see this as a religious problem, but rather a social/cultural issue that is exacerbated by ghettoisation; something which happens quite a lot in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    Tfw i'm a leftist all of a sudden
    I wasn't talking about you, nor anyone here at FHC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
    On the other hand I don’t see this as a religious problem, but rather a social/cultural issue that is exacerbated by ghettoisation; something which happens quite a lot in the UK.
    Poor, oppressed, and/or uneducated peoples are susceptible to extremism. They always have.
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    as a tolerant society, extending this benefit to the intolerant is a mistake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    Tfw i'm a leftist all of a sudden
    I wasn't talking about you, nor anyone here at FHC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
    On the other hand I don’t see this as a religious problem, but rather a social/cultural issue that is exacerbated by ghettoisation; something which happens quite a lot in the UK.
    Poor, oppressed, and/or uneducated peoples are susceptible to extremism. They always have.
    That’s not really what I’m getting at. When you put a bunch of people together in an enclosed space, they tend to mutually reinforce each other’s views. When said existing views are already pretty reprehensible it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
    as a tolerant society, extending this benefit to the intolerant is a mistake.
    The one thing we cannot tolerate, at all, is intolerance.

    This isn't even slightly paradoxical.

    It's basically "do unto others", but if they want to gas brown people in ovens, it is they who should be gassed.\

    Quite simple, and it would fix the problem pretty quick.

    What South Africa taught me is that if you give a racist a choice between his belief and pain and death, they very quickly change their beliefs.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
    as a tolerant society, extending this benefit to the intolerant is a mistake.
    The one thing we cannot tolerate, at all, is intolerance.

    This isn't even slightly paradoxical.

    It's basically "do unto others", but if they want to gas brown people in ovens, it is they who should be gassed.\

    Quite simple, and it would fix the problem pretty quick.

    What South Africa taught me is that if you give a racist a choice between his belief and pain and death, they very quickly change their beliefs.
    Isnt that literally what they're doing in China? But muslims are too dumb to change their believes so they just keep taking it
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    Smarnca I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, fuck off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    as a tolerant society, extending this benefit to the intolerant is a mistake.
    The one thing we cannot tolerate, at all, is intolerance.

    This isn't even slightly paradoxical.

    It's basically "do unto others", but if they want to gas brown people in ovens, it is they who should be gassed.\

    Quite simple, and it would fix the problem pretty quick.

    What South Africa taught me is that if you give a racist a choice between his belief and pain and death, they very quickly change their beliefs.
    Isnt that literally what they're doing in China? But muslims are too dumb to change their believes so they just keep taking it
    Come on mate, you can’t honestly believe mass re-education camps are a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djan Seriy Anaplian View Post
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    as a tolerant society, extending this benefit to the intolerant is a mistake.
    The one thing we cannot tolerate, at all, is intolerance.

    This isn't even slightly paradoxical.

    It's basically "do unto others", but if they want to gas brown people in ovens, it is they who should be gassed.\

    Quite simple, and it would fix the problem pretty quick.

    What South Africa taught me is that if you give a racist a choice between his belief and pain and death, they very quickly change their beliefs.
    Isnt that literally what they're doing in China? But muslims are too dumb to change their believes so they just keep taking it
    Come on mate, you canít honestly believe mass re-education camps are a good thing.
    He worships fascists it shouldn't come as a surprise

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    I mean it’s a spectrum from struggle session to re-education camp, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    I mean, the Chinese deserve it for their treatment of the Uighurs, shit's absolutely dystopian
    It's what you deserve to get for being a religious fanatic
    I'm a religious fanatic?

    Have the petrol fumes finally got to your brain?
    No your beloved Uighurs are
    Are you saying that 88 - 90% of Muslims on the planet are "religious fanatics" ?
    Yes
    Ok cool, another reminder to discard your opinion offhand


    http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...iety-overview/

    You gonna dismiss the pew research center offhand too?
    Do a survey of US Christians, and ask them if our laws should be based on the bible, you will see a significant number saying "yes". Heck, half of them already think US law is based on biblical law. Same thing.

    So muslims are 50 years behind christians on homosexuality. Big surprise there.

    If 25% of the human race is Muslim, by definition it is a mainstream religion, not an extremist religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
    Smarnca I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, fuck off
    Then you would have to live with the thought that you didnt help a fellow human when you could and my burning body and the screaming would follow you for the rest of your life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
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    Smarnca I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, fuck off
    Then you would have to live with the thought that you didnt help a fellow human when you could and my burning body and the screaming would follow you for the rest of your life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorvil Barranis View Post
    Do a survey of US Christians, and ask them if our laws should be based on the bible, you will see a significant number saying "yes". Heck, half of them already think US law is based on biblical law. Same thing.

    So muslims are 50 years behind christians on homosexuality. Big surprise there.

    If 25% of the human race is Muslim, by definition it is a mainstream religion, not an extremist religion.
    US Christians who want to live under biblical law are fanatics too. Anyone who wants to live under religious law is a fanatic. I have no problem standing by that statement.

    I only wish that the "left" would criticize Islam as rigorously as it does Christianity, especially since it's hardly a tiny minority religion in Europe these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    Do a survey of US Christians, and ask them if our laws should be based on the bible, you will see a significant number saying "yes". Heck, half of them already think US law is based on biblical law. Same thing.

    So muslims are 50 years behind christians on homosexuality. Big surprise there.

    If 25% of the human race is Muslim, by definition it is a mainstream religion, not an extremist religion.
    US Christians who want to live under biblical law are fanatics too. Anyone who wants to live under religious law is a fanatic. I have no problem standing by that statement.

    I only wish that the "left" would criticize Islam as rigorously as it does Christianity, especially since it's hardly a tiny minority religion in Europe these days.
    They do though, you've just fallen for the alt-right "lefties don't care about mudslime raep gangs!?!?!!" narrative hook line and sinker.

    Didn't the US just rule that FGM was totally A-OK this week, or is it only yuropeans that don't care about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenosisMk4 View Post
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    Do a survey of US Christians, and ask them if our laws should be based on the bible, you will see a significant number saying "yes". Heck, half of them already think US law is based on biblical law. Same thing.

    So muslims are 50 years behind christians on homosexuality. Big surprise there.

    If 25% of the human race is Muslim, by definition it is a mainstream religion, not an extremist religion.
    US Christians who want to live under biblical law are fanatics too. Anyone who wants to live under religious law is a fanatic. I have no problem standing by that statement.

    I only wish that the "left" would criticize Islam as rigorously as it does Christianity, especially since it's hardly a tiny minority religion in Europe these days.
    They do though, you've just fallen for the alt-right "lefties don't care about mudslime raep gangs!?!?!!" narrative hook line and sinker.

    Didn't the US just rule that FGM was totally A-OK this week, or is it only yuropeans that don't care about it?
    They definitely don't, the police literally turned a blind eye to said rape gangs (which you brought up, not me) for fear of looking anti-muslim. The Labor MP from Rotherham himself said he did not want to raise the issue of abuse in the Muslim community because he didn't want to "rock the multicultural community boat". If those crimes had been committed by a christian cult you can bet your ass that the police would have come down on it much sooner.

    The USA also thinks that circumcising male infants is "A-OK" so I'm not really sure what your point is, that the country with a founding myth revolving around "pilgrims" may not have its head screwed on straight with regards to religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    Do a survey of US Christians, and ask them if our laws should be based on the bible, you will see a significant number saying "yes". Heck, half of them already think US law is based on biblical law. Same thing.

    So muslims are 50 years behind christians on homosexuality. Big surprise there.

    If 25% of the human race is Muslim, by definition it is a mainstream religion, not an extremist religion.
    US Christians who want to live under biblical law are fanatics too. Anyone who wants to live under religious law is a fanatic. I have no problem standing by that statement.

    I only wish that the "left" would criticize Islam as rigorously as it does Christianity, especially since it's hardly a tiny minority religion in Europe these days.
    They do though, you've just fallen for the alt-right "lefties don't care about mudslime raep gangs!?!?!!" narrative hook line and sinker.

    Didn't the US just rule that FGM was totally A-OK this week, or is it only yuropeans that don't care about it?
    They definitely don't, the police literally turned a blind eye to said rape gangs (which you brought up, not me) for fear of looking anti-muslim. The Labor MP from Rotherham himself said he did not want to raise the issue of abuse in the Muslim community because he didn't want to "rock the multicultural community boat". If those crimes had been committed by a christian cult you can bet your ass that the police would have come down on it much sooner.

    The USA also thinks that circumcising male infants is "A-OK" so I'm not really sure what your point is, that the country with a founding myth revolving around "pilgrims" may not have its head screwed on straight with regards to religion?
    The Christian rape gang cult has one of the best real estate portfolios going.
    meh

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    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    The Christian rape gang cult has one of the best real estate portfolios going.


    Can't argue with that.. although I do remember a certain place called Waco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
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    The Christian rape gang cult has one of the best real estate portfolios going.


    Can't argue with that.. although I do remember a certain place called Waco.
    Even dirt poor people can be psychopathic zealots who abuse children?
    meh

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    tfw infracted for being mean to Smarnca but endorsing reeducation camps and calling all muslims too stupid to learn is a-ok because "Smarnca is stupid"

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