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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
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    Uneducated guess, they left Turkey for work in the 70s and old school secular Turkey wasn't their bag of tea so they set up their own communities away from the Ataturkist government that has now been largely swept away by Sultan Erdogan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Approaching Walrus View Post
    Sultan Erdogan the Great speaks out against the UNREPENTANT DUTCH and their heinous crimes at Srebrenica

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39270095
    I see he's learning from Putin.

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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

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    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

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    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
    Partially they are. But considering that our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Not to mention that "integration" was a totally unknown concept in West Germany until the late 90s. Why do you think does the vast majority of the first and some of the second generation not speak any or very little German?

    They were left alone to their own devices by the German society. So they kept to themselves and had little contact to Germans.

    I mean how much contact do you have to German Turks with a working class background?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

    Tapapapatalk
    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
    Partially they are. But considering that our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Not to mention that "integration" was a totally unknown concept in West Germany until the late 90s. Why do you think does the vast majority of the first and some of the second generation not speak any or very little German?

    They were left alone to their own devices by the German society. So they kept to themselves and had little contact to Germans.

    I mean how much contact do you have to German Turks with a working class background?

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    I have no real contact to anyone with a working class background. Unless you count people that have a carpentry business with a couple of employees or similar. No matter the nationality.
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    tl;dr: the Cold War directly fucked Europe up, since west europe couldn't get slavs to come and work, they hired a bunch of turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    tl;dr: the Cold War directly fucked Europe up, since west europe couldn't get slavs to come and work, they hired a bunch of turks.

    gg no re
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    I actually have very little problems with turks, the teenaged boys from 13-21 or so are usually a bunch of douchebags but not that much worse then normal teens. In general they are a bunch of nice people, its just erdogan who is a cunt. I think most germans would agree.

    Who we dont like atm are the nafris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W0lf Crendraven View Post
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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    In Turkey it's like it is almost everywhere, even in Germany: people in the cities vs. people from the backwoods aka more progressives vs. more conservatives. The ones that immigrated to Germany mostly stem from villages in Anatolia.

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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

    Tapapapatalk
    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
    Partially they are. But considering that our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Not to mention that "integration" was a totally unknown concept in West Germany until the late 90s. Why do you think does the vast majority of the first and some of the second generation not speak any or very little German?

    They were left alone to their own devices by the German society. So they kept to themselves and had little contact to Germans.
    To add to that: they were called "Gastarbeiter" for a reason. Germany implied/hoped that once the Italians and later the Turks helped us to get our economy up and running again, they would wave a "good bye" and head back to (the relative poverty of) their countries again. Surprise, surprise, that never happened.

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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

    Tapapapatalk
    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
    Partially they are. But considering that our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Not to mention that "integration" was a totally unknown concept in West Germany until the late 90s. Why do you think does the vast majority of the first and some of the second generation not speak any or very little German?

    They were left alone to their own devices by the German society. So they kept to themselves and had little contact to Germans.
    To add to that: they were called "Gastarbeiter" for a reason. Germany implied/hoped that once the Italians and later the Turks helped us to get our economy up and running again, they would wave a "good bye" and head back to (the relative poverty of) their countries again. Surprise, surprise, that never happened.
    So why do you think they will do it now?

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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

    Tapapapatalk
    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
    Partially they are. But considering that our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Not to mention that "integration" was a totally unknown concept in West Germany until the late 90s. Why do you think does the vast majority of the first and some of the second generation not speak any or very little German?

    They were left alone to their own devices by the German society. So they kept to themselves and had little contact to Germans.
    To add to that: they were called "Gastarbeiter" for a reason. Germany implied/hoped that once the Italians and later the Turks helped us to get our economy up and running again, they would wave a "good bye" and head back to (the relative poverty of) their countries again. Surprise, surprise, that never happened.
    So why do you think they will do it now?
    Who thinks that?
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    I said it many times and I'll say it again: fuck the Turks.
    Make that "Fuck the AKP followers" and I fully agree. Remember: there's a big part of Turks who are against Erodgan, mainly in the big cities. See the Gezi Park protests for example.

    That the AKP is campaigning in foreign countries is due to the fact that in Turkey there's no clear majority for Erdogan's referendum, so he turns towards the expats for gathering the necessary votes. Unfortunately, especially in Germany, he's got strong support amongst Turks.
    For the life of me, i don't know why. Someone please tell me.
    Because Turks in Germany are generally more conservative and thus favor the conservative AKP.
    Why that is the case was my question.
    Because who do you think left Turkey in the 60s and 70s? The well educated liberal successful West Turkish population or the conservative less well educated unsuccessful Anatolian rural population?
    If you think the former I have bad news for you.

    Tapapapatalk
    But shouldn't they and their offspring be more liberal and educated now, almost 60 years later?
    Partially they are. But considering that our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Not to mention that "integration" was a totally unknown concept in West Germany until the late 90s. Why do you think does the vast majority of the first and some of the second generation not speak any or very little German?

    They were left alone to their own devices by the German society. So they kept to themselves and had little contact to Germans.
    To add to that: they were called "Gastarbeiter" for a reason. Germany implied/hoped that once the Italians and later the Turks helped us to get our economy up and running again, they would wave a "good bye" and head back to (the relative poverty of) their countries again. Surprise, surprise, that never happened.
    So why do you think they will do it now?
    Who thinks that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Haha. OK. So its the governments fault that stupid people do not put an emphasis of development and fostering of skills in their kids?

    School and University are FREE for ALL. Just because retards do not read to their kids, do not raise kids properly does not make it the education systems fault. It makes it the fault of STUPID UNMOTIVATED IDIOTS. Because there are plenty of "working class" kids in german schools and universities. Just not many of STUPID WORKING CLASS parents.

    Problem with a free society is that when people are FREE to move up their class, those who are not stupid will move up. So most non lazy non stupid "working class" parents stop being "working class" by their 40ies.

    Would you consider a Daimler Schichtarbeiter making 60k EUR a year working class? Thats exactly what he is, and his kids will get proper education in most cases, not because he can afford, it, after all it is free, but because he is a hard working and skilled member of the working class.

    What you mean is that there will be no kids from day job alcoholics getting to university. Thats not due to the system but due to the parents being east germans and rejects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metacannibal View Post
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    our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Haha. OK. So its the governments fault that stupid people do not put an emphasis of development and fostering of skills in their kids?

    School and University are FREE for ALL. Just because retards do not read to their kids, do not raise kids properly does not make it the education systems fault. It makes it the fault of STUPID UNMOTIVATED IDIOTS. Because there are plenty of "working class" kids in german schools and universities. Just not many of STUPID WORKING CLASS parents.

    Problem with a free society is that when people are FREE to move up their class, those who are not stupid will move up. So most non lazy non stupid "working class" parents stop being "working class" by their 40ies.

    Would you consider a Daimler Schichtarbeiter making 60k EUR a year working class? Thats exactly what he is, and his kids will get proper education in most cases, not because he can afford, it, after all it is free, but because he is a hard working and skilled member of the working class.

    What you mean is that there will be no kids from day job alcoholics getting to university. Thats not due to the system but due to the parents being east germans and rejects.
    That's how communism can fuck you up for generations. Every post soviet block country has the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metacannibal View Post
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    our education system is so awesome that if you have an immigrant (or working class) background it's pretty much impossible to get higher education.

    Haha. OK. So its the governments fault that stupid people do not put an emphasis of development and fostering of skills in their kids?

    School and University are FREE for ALL. Just because retards do not read to their kids, do not raise kids properly does not make it the education systems fault. It makes it the fault of STUPID UNMOTIVATED IDIOTS. Because there are plenty of "working class" kids in german schools and universities. Just not many of STUPID WORKING CLASS parents.

    Problem with a free society is that when people are FREE to move up their class, those who are not stupid will move up. So most non lazy non stupid "working class" parents stop being "working class" by their 40ies.

    Would you consider a Daimler Schichtarbeiter making 60k EUR a year working class? Thats exactly what he is, and his kids will get proper education in most cases, not because he can afford, it, after all it is free, but because he is a hard working and skilled member of the working class.

    What you mean is that there will be no kids from day job alcoholics getting to university. Thats not due to the system but due to the parents being east germans and rejects.
    careful there this point of view is only accepted by the left in the USA if you talk about white trash. If you use it in reflection of minority dominant inner city culture you're a racist.

    edit: translation to elsewhere may vary.

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