[PVP] Cyclone

[ry ry]

[Cyclone, ghetto claymore]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Damage Control II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Invulnerability Field II
Command Processor I
Large Shield Extender II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers
Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x3
Hornet EC-300 x2

[Jalif]

In all honesty, I would use a hurricane instead of a cyclone for it if you wanted to give out command bonuses while fighting at the same time.

I prefer the following setup which I used long time ago (2 years now?), just after the webnerf. I got 130 kills with it and most of it was just pure solo'ing (which was good for me at the time) - Setup can be improved here and there easily but at the time I didn't have the skills for everything.

[Cyclone, Jalif's Cyclone]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
LADAR Backup Array II
Emergency Damage Control I

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II
Large Shield Booster II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800


220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
'Malkuth' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Damage Drones.

[Sparkus Volundar]

[Cyclone, PvP - Fat Boy]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
X-Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile
Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Piranha Light Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin II x2
Valkyrie II x3

442 dps
511 dps tank (1:12 min with MWD off) and 334 dps tank while charges last.
32.8k EHP

Sparks

[Phoku5]

Because Cyclone pew pew is usually on a tight time table I like mine to bring a lot of deeps. This one is functionally pimped within reason and has a neut to boot.

[Cyclone, DG-L ghostface killah]
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Invulnerability Field II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x1


586/658 deeps @ 1.4+11 (faction close range)
507/566 deeps @ 2.7+17 (meh doin it wrong with barrage)

334/460 tank (eatin ur boosters)
34K ehp

2:45 cap w/o mwd
1:36 cap w/ neut

206/1311 m/s
8.5/11.9 align

[Colera]

I have a tengu alt so I roll with this:


[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Ionic Field Accelerator I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
XT-2800 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
XT-2800 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
XT-2800 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I


Valkyrie II x3
Warrior II x2

Tanks 885/1121 with links and pill
527 dps

Requires alot of cap management and 1%pg imp

[Serwenta]

[Cyclone, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Assault Missile Launcher II
Assault Missile Launcher II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3

[Pacefalm]

With IFFA and an ACR you can fit 220's and 3 AMLs, so you can get at least some dps. If you do that, you can also drop the Med injector to T2 small one (navy 400) and use a med nos to maintain the booster without relying too much on the injector (and med nos > small neut).

[Cyclone, New Setup 1 import 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x3

But I don't know if it will be very effective. 100mn AB kind of makes you a brick and the dps is not huge.

[CastleBravo]

A no propulsion cyclone has more ability to control range than a 100mn ab cyclone... at least the one without a prop mod can turn.

[Gix Tyrionn]

A no propulsion cyclone has more ability to control range than a 100mn ab cyclone... at least the one without a prop mod can turn.

You only turn the 100mn on when you need to.

[Tordin Varglund]

lol cyclones dont control range anyway.

Fiddled a bit with it,

[Cyclone, New Setup 1 import 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I


Valkyrie II x3
Warrior II x2

Stats with crystals, bluepill, tengu AND loki in gang:

tanks: 1046/1327
dps: 564/634
speed: 1267/1812
Align time: 36.6s.......

Its still abysmal

[Gix Tyrionn]

speed: 1267/1812
Align time: 36.6s.......

Its still abysmal

All that gimp and its essentially an mwd that takes forever to get up to speed. Damn

[Rudolf Miller]

[quote=Gix Tyrionn]

speed: 1267/1812
Align time: 36.6s.......

Its still abysmal

All that gimp and its essentially an mwd that takes forever to get up to speed. Damn[/quote:1bely418]

BUT, it can't be shut off by a scram. And due to the nature of the force involved, can occasionally push itself through webs.

A gimp, yes. But for a good reason.

[Podcat]

I tried the 100MN fit and it was useless. most fight scenarios is you vs a gatecamp squad and if you cant mwd-burst into rapiers face and scram+kill them you just wont get any kills. the acceleration is too shit

[Chris Packet]

I am undecided... does 3x AMLs makeup for the lack of a medium neut for off'ing tackle, esp with no web and 3x med + 2x sml drones? I'm having trouble justifying not putting a med neut on a mwd/scram fit.

[Resi]

If you're active tanking then the Med Neut will hardly ever come in handy, it's not as if you'll be in many situations where you'll need to get tackle off you, burn away then warp off instead of de-agressing and tanking out the session change timer.

[Podcat]

If you're active tanking then the Med Neut will hardly ever come in handy, it's not as if you'll be in many situations where you'll need to get tackle off you, burn away then warp off instead of de-agressing and tanking out the session change timer.

not sure if you were being sarcastic or not. I think a neut is always worth it in 0.0 at least

[Resi]

I wasn't being sarcastic, sorry if it came off that way, I just go with the assumption that you'll get blobbed eventually and you'll need to make an escape somewhere along the line, so my post was written with that in mind. When I'm flying solo active tanks, I'm hesitant to get too far away from a gate or station, so neuting tackle off isn't usually that important. But then I am pretty awful at flying active tanks.

edit: I'm always flying in NPC 0.0, that's probably why I have the no neut necessary mindset.

[Podcat]

I wasn't being sarcastic, sorry if it came off that way, I just go with the assumption that you'll get blobbed eventually and you'll need to make an escape somewhere along the line, so my post was written with that in mind. When I'm flying solo active tanks, I'm hesitant to get too far away from a gate or station, so neuting tackle off isn't usually that important. But then I am pretty awful at flying active tanks.

most of the time yeah, but you get very little dps gain from the one missile slot. the most common situation is running from a blob and jumping through a gate and their ceptor scrams you 15km away. being able to neut it is pretty nice and reapproaching isnt very good when 50 guys are about to land on the other side.

[Lachesis VII]

So uh, I'm finally giving into the Minmatar craze, since I've got pretty much nothing else left to train.

I don't suppose someone could give me a basic PIP-style rundown on how to fly one of these things effectively? I like the idea of them quite a bit more than the 'Cane.

1) Are crystals mandatory? I'm a bit poor right now; don't have the liquid cash to spring for a set. I'm planning on flying this thing in my snake clone.

2) I notice these fits are mostly Scram/HAM fits. So I take it you fly the thing like a shield-boosting version of a dual-rep Brutix? Just burn straight in, get on top of them, orbit, and keep the target from running with the scram? Hope your native minmatar speed lets you keep hold of the target when webbed?

3) What kind of target profile are you looking at?

Anything else I should know?

[Dwergi]

Neuts are bad, your DPS isn't great and you can just barely tank a single BC. Essentially, that's your target profile - solo HAC, recon, BC. Burn in, get a scram, fire away. If you can't get a scram on, you're not going to be hurting them anyway (falloff is like 11km), so might as well tank and jump/dock/get out.

I'd really not fly a Cyclone without at least a ganglink alt anymore, you just end up not tanking enough, getting neuted to hell and dying.

Also, I've found that you should probably run with ECM drones (everyone else does) and you should probably fit a smartbomb (because everyone else runs ECM drones). You don't have enough cap to run your own neuts anyway, so fitting them is rather pointless.