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    Post [Devblog] CSM9: Presenting the New Council Members, Election Data, and Officer Change


    As per Fanfest tradition, CCP Hellmar announced the election results for the 9th Council of Stellar Management (CSM9) during the CCP Presents keynote at Fanfest 2014.
    This time around we continued to use the Single Transferrable Vote (STV) system that we used in 2013. This means that all CSM members below have received the necessary amount of votes and all are equal members of the council.
    The 14 delegates of the Ninth Council of Stellar Management are:


    You can find more information regarding your elected delegates for CSM9 on the EVE Community Portal.
    In a change of tradition, CSM9 will not be electing any officers, as both CCP and the CSM believe that officer positions are of little use other than as a feather in the cap of a particular member of the council. This is reinforced by the announced delay in officer selection and, after considering the pros and cons of having officers, we have decided to scrap the practice so that the CSM moves forward working as a coherent team with everyone on the same level. We will be amending the CSM whitepaper in the future to formally state this.
    If you would like to know who to contact and how, there will be a post put up in Jita Park Speaker’s Corner soon, with information about how to reach the CSM, but EVE-mailing the delegates will also work in a pinch.
    Results
    Eligible voters had cast 31,294 votes, meaning that the number of votes cast this year is significantly lower than for CSM 8. We feel that this is due to a lack of awareness about the CSM’s form and function within the community, and we will be working actively with CSM9 to reach a broader audience over the coming term.
    The average age of users who voted was 33 years, and the average age of an account was 3.6 years, a 0.4 year increase from the last election.
    Age in days Frequency Cumulative
    30.00
    4335
    13.85%
    250.00
    4821
    29.26%
    500.00
    3372
    40.03%
    750.00
    2824
    49.06%
    1000.00
    2669
    57.59%
    1250.00
    2288
    64.90%
    1500.00
    2297
    72.24%
    1750.00
    2055
    78.80%
    2000.00
    1399
    83.27%
    2250.00
    1446
    87.90%
    2500.00
    1020
    91.15%
    2750.00
    1044
    94.49%
    3000.00
    673
    96.64%
    3250.00
    343
    97.74%
    3500.00
    366
    98.91%
    3750.00
    228
    99.64%
    4000.00
    114
    100.00%

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    CCP and I would like to thank the delegates of CSM8 for their hard work over the last term, and congratulate the newly elected delegates of CSM9 on their new roles.
    We would also like to thank all those who followed and participated in the elections this time around.
    @CCP_Leeloo



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    Well didn't they do an ingame mail shot to all players about a week before the vote closed, last year?
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Well didn't they do an ingame mail shot to all players about a week before the vote closed, last year?
    Dolan said that the mail shot to all players involved a really dirty hack that actually took down the server about 1 third of the time so they weren't going to do it again.

    Seems a bit bizarre that you can't actually use your own mail system but... yeah.

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    IDGI, just auto-sub every subscribed account at DT to an official ingame CCP mailing list, and send it then. Bam, efficient mail distribution.

    That or just sent the mail to blocks of accounts, again during DT/whenever is least load on the mail system.
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    That or just accept that the majority of the playerbase simply doesnt give a shit?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Foiritain View Post
    That or just accept that the majority of the playerbase simply doesnt give a shit?
    Roughly 35% less voters than last year. Yep, not giving a shit seems to be the proper term here.

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    Out of mild curiousity I dug through the older CSM election results:

    CSM9: 31 294

    CSM8: 49 702
    CSM7: 59 109
    CSM6: 49 096
    CSM5: 39 433
    CSM4: 21 158
    CSM3: 27 848
    CSM2: 20 112
    CSM1: 24 651

    Or in graph format:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    IDGI, just auto-sub every subscribed account at DT to an official ingame CCP mailing list, and send it then. Bam, efficient mail distribution.

    That or just sent the mail to blocks of accounts, again during DT/whenever is least load on the mail system.
    I imagine that community relations isn't trusted to do that themselves and isn't important enough to get someone who is trusted to do it.

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    Some quick reactions:
    jeez, voting 2-year trend is plummeting
    corebloodbrothers had 2nd-highest initial total, and roughly 60% of ballots with him at the top had nobody else. a curious mix of motivated and lazy for provibloc. only pretty good ballot faithfulness for the top 4 or so for CFC voters kept him out of the permanent seat.
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    Votes always go down when things are better than they were before

    Tap on, tap off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike deVoid View Post
    Votes always go down when things are better than they were before

    Tap on, tap off

    Pretty much. We tried to persuade CCP to do something incredibly awful a few weeks before the election but they were reluctant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike deVoid View Post
    Votes always go down when things are better than they were before

    Tap on, tap off

    Pretty much. We tried to persuade CCP to do something incredibly awful a few weeks before the election but they were reluctant.
    Instead they did the rouge wedding after the elections? Makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike deVoid View Post
    Votes always go down when things are better than they were before

    Tap on, tap off

    Pretty much. We tried to persuade CCP to do something incredibly awful a few weeks before the election but they were reluctant.
    Instead they did the rouge wedding after the elections? Makes sense.
    Which just goes to show that when it comes to the crunch with anything they want to do - it'll happen regardless of the opinions of the CSM. Ipso facto CSM is a paper tiger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshasa The Cat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike deVoid View Post
    Votes always go down when things are better than they were before

    Tap on, tap off

    Pretty much. We tried to persuade CCP to do something incredibly awful a few weeks before the election but they were reluctant.
    Instead they did the rouge wedding after the elections? Makes sense.
    Which just goes to show that when it comes to the crunch with anything they want to do - it'll happen regardless of the opinions of the CSM. Ipso facto CSM is a paper tiger.
    You're aware the CSM has nothing to do with Dust, and you're just pretending to be a brain damaged solvent-huffer as a "troll", right?

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    I'm touched you said pretending.

    edit: Real talk, I don't think the CSM is useless or hasn't achieved anything, or that the people who go into it aren't motivated, but moreso that in spite of the CSM/CPM CCP still bypasses them to make dubious decisions on a whim (Somer prizes for example) or ignores their advice completely when they've already made their decision before walking into the summits - case in point: the Dust thing.
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    Literally could not have been less bothered to vote for randoms. Everyone else was a shoe-in or detestable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davion Falcon View Post
    Out of mild curiousity I dug through the older CSM election results:

    CSM9: 31 294

    CSM8: 49 702
    CSM7: 59 109
    CSM6: 49 096
    CSM5: 39 433
    CSM4: 21 158
    CSM3: 27 848
    CSM2: 20 112
    CSM1: 24 651

    Or in graph format:

    You can't see but I'm wearing my surprised face.

    In fairness it is very hard to distinguish from my sarcastic face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steph View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davion Falcon View Post
    Out of mild curiousity I dug through the older CSM election results:

    CSM9: 31 294

    CSM8: 49 702
    CSM7: 59 109
    CSM6: 49 096
    CSM5: 39 433
    CSM4: 21 158
    CSM3: 27 848
    CSM2: 20 112
    CSM1: 24 651

    Or in graph format:

    You can't see but I'm wearing my surprised face.

    In fairness it is very hard to distinguish from my sarcastic face.
    That graph would look absolutely abysmal adjusted for total subs

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    Since CCP isn't giving the numbers I'm going to assume that the same percentage of the player-base voted as last year and Tranquility now only has 257,997 vs 409,759 last year. No wonder they don't want to give us the numbers. And why they have to fire a chunk of the company, people keep leaving for other companies, etc.

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    Updated with some more information.

    CSMx: # of Voters | Est. accounts | % of voters/accounts | Date of election results devblog
    Chairman: <name> (votes/% of total votes)

    CSM1: 24 651 ~225k ~11% 21May08
    Chairman: Jade Constantine (2 436/9.9%)

    CSM2: 20 112 ~240k ~8.3% 24Nov08
    Chairman: Vuk Lau (2 033/10.1%)

    CSM3: 27 848 ~275k ~10.1% 28May09
    Chairman: Dierdra Vaal (2 967/10.7%)

    CSM4: 21 158 ~300k ~7.1% 12Dec09
    Chairman: ElvenLord (1 553/7.3%)

    CSM5: 39 433 ~325k ~21.1% 26May10
    Chairman: Mynxee (4 116/10.4%)

    CSM moves to year long terms and does away with term limits. QEN is discontinued, account numbers are 'best guesses' on a growth rate of 50k per year.

    CSM6: 49 096 ~375k 13.1% 26Mar11
    Chairman: The Mittani (5 365/10.9%)

    CSM7: 59 109 ~425k 13.9% 24Mar12
    Chairman: The Mittani (10 058/17%)

    Subsequent derpititis outbreak at the Fanfest Alliance Panel removes The Mittani from the CSM.

    On 28Feb13 CCP announces 500k+ subscribers worldwide.

    CSM8: 49 702 500k+ =<9.9% 7May13
    Permanent Attendees: Mynnna/Ripard Teg

    First results of the Wright-STV voting system.

    CSM9: 31 294 500k+ =<6.3% 9May14
    Permanent Attendees: Ali Aras/Sion Kumitomo
    CSM abolishes the chairman position in favour of an autonomous collective.

    Graph form:




    Notes:
    The last QEN was Q4 2010 and I had to eyeball the account #s, so account #s are sketchy at best.

    Sources:
    Last edited by Davion Falcon; May 10 2014 at 01:13:48 AM.
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