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    General sleep isses thread

    Supposed to gather tips on how to get better sleep and deal with common sleep issues.

    Ill start - not that I have sleep isses per se but I find it nearly impossible to get out of bed. This is worst when I'm on vacation. Right now I am near the end of my 2 weeks leave and my sleep cycle shifted so that I am going to bed somewhen around 5 in the morning and "standing up" somewhen around 14:00 noon. Falling out of bed is the more accurate description.

    I dont know if that has to do with low blood pressure (mine is very low) or with bad sleep (I sleep normally as long as I know). Standing up is a torture since I am always tired and powerless as fuck, no matter if I sleep 5 or 10 hours. When I am not pressed to stand up I lay in bed for another half an hour after I wake up - at least. I dont feel exhausted however after I had an hour or 2 to gather myself and lead a normal day having the most energy around midnight. Other than that no known issues, rather normal food and doing some sports 3- 4 times a week.

    So does that mean that I am the rather extreme "owl" - type person and have to deal with it or is there something to improve the process of getting out of bed and finally feel well rested?

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    Do you regularly exercise at least 30 minutes a day? Generally get out or get some cardio? Or does your low blood pressure make it impossible to do that?
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    Not a day but every second/third day I do either running or gym for 3/4 or 1 hour. What is bad for me however is that I sit in the chair the rest of the day... but then again many do and they don't have my issue. I know that having a good breakfast helps to get energy in the morning - but I dont know how to make the waking up and getting out of bed process more bearable. Having regular sleep times doesnt really work because I do try to get in bed at around the same times and it works during the week but I still wake up destroyed. On weekends and holidays it gets later and later because I am simply not tired enough to sleep.

    For me, it would be better if the day had 26-30 hours.

    For example right now as I am writing these lines it is 2:30 at night in Germany and I ought to be in bed but I rather decided to make it through the whole night and get to bed at around 11-12 in the evening on the next day to achieve my normal sleep cycle until monday. It fucking sucks but I am not tired and it would do nothing if I went to bed because I'd just lie there and couldnt sleep.
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    Willpower. Coffee. Shower. Morning sex.

    Not in that order.

    Seriously though for a real good morning you need to stay in the good morning rhythm. Go to bed early, get up at a regular time. Stay in that rhythm and try not to deviate.

    Even on weekends.

    I have adopted this and found that it is much better.

    On the aside are you sitting in front of your computer all the time?

    Maybe try out f.lux, it'll make your screen 'cooler' and stop keeping you awake with the bright white light. It works.

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    Yeah, mostly in front of computer, also reading in bed usually before going to sleep. I shall try out this f.lux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McRoll View Post
    Yeah, mostly in front of computer, also reading in bed usually before going to sleep. I shall try out this f.lux.
    Get a boring book and read that while in bed. You will go to sleep quicker repeat as needed until you open a good book while in bed and only make it a chapter to a few pages and fall asleep. I accidentally trained my brain/body to do this reading some wordy biography ten or so years ago and even today trying to read in bed will put me to sleep in 30 minutes or less.

    Other than that always get up when your alarm goes off and your body will adapt to it sooner or later. Unless you're a teenager in which case... your fucked until your hormones are done being stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRoll View Post
    Supposed to gather tips on how to get better sleep and deal with common sleep issues.

    Ill start - not that I have sleep isses per se but I find it nearly impossible to get out of bed. This is worst when I'm on vacation. Right now I am near the end of my 2 weeks leave and my sleep cycle shifted so that I am going to bed somewhen around 5 in the morning and "standing up" somewhen around 14:00 noon. Falling out of bed is the more accurate description.

    I dont know if that has to do with low blood pressure (mine is very low) or with bad sleep (I sleep normally as long as I know). Standing up is a torture since I am always tired and powerless as fuck, no matter if I sleep 5 or 10 hours. When I am not pressed to stand up I lay in bed for another half an hour after I wake up - at least. I dont feel exhausted however after I had an hour or 2 to gather myself and lead a normal day having the most energy around midnight. Other than that no known issues, rather normal food and doing some sports 3- 4 times a week.

    So does that mean that I am the rather extreme "owl" - type person and have to deal with it or is there something to improve the process of getting out of bed and finally feel well rested?
    Am going bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenta View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by McRoll View Post
    Yeah, mostly in front of computer, also reading in bed usually before going to sleep. I shall try out this f.lux.
    Get a boring book and read that while in bed. You will go to sleep quicker repeat as needed until you open a good book while in bed and only make it a chapter to a few pages and fall asleep. I accidentally trained my brain/body to do this reading some wordy biography ten or so years ago and even today trying to read in bed will put me to sleep in 30 minutes or less.

    Other than that always get up when your alarm goes off and your body will adapt to it sooner or later. Unless you're a teenager in which case... your fucked until your hormones are done being stupid.
    Wait 2 pm is not normal wake up time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenta View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by McRoll View Post
    Yeah, mostly in front of computer, also reading in bed usually before going to sleep. I shall try out this f.lux.
    Get a boring book and read that while in bed. You will go to sleep quicker repeat as needed until you open a good book while in bed and only make it a chapter to a few pages and fall asleep. I accidentally trained my brain/body to do this reading some wordy biography ten or so years ago and even today trying to read in bed will put me to sleep in 30 minutes or less.

    Other than that always get up when your alarm goes off and your body will adapt to it sooner or later. Unless you're a teenager in which case... your fucked until your hormones are done being stupid.
    Wait 2 pm is not normal wake up time?
    Depends if you work graveyard shift i guess.

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    i have a similar problem. getting out of bed is so fucking hard,

    went to bed at 3am last night. woke up normally at 11, dozed til 12 now am posting from my phone in bed. its normally hunger that makes me get up tbh

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    Phonepoasting so this will be brief.

    I can totally relate to your issues as I've been there myself. Extended periods of leave especially following a period of nightshift can wreak havoc with your sleep.

    Some suggestions that have worked for me and a lot of coworkers.

    Be ruthlessly disciplined regarding when you go to bed. It took me years to figure out that staying up an extra 90 minutes could wreck the entire week when turning back the clock from a nightshift.

    Have some sleeping pills in the cupboard. Just knowing they are there relaxes you and you will never have to stress about falling asleep. I've used maybe 3 pills in the last two years. Knowing that I can fall asleep no matter what is quite comforting.

    Never eat at night.

    Eat more zink and magnesium. Started with that a year ago and my sleep has improved. I need less sleep and I wake up more energized instead of feeling like there is a bus parked on my chest.

    Set the alarm. No longer than 8:30. And no it doesn't matter if you stayed up untill 2:30. Take a brisk walk before breakfast if you need to get going. If you feel like you keeling over in the middle of the day take 30-45 on the couch. SET THE ALARM IF YOU DO THAT!

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    Go see a doctor.

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    What might help is waking up ' in stages '. Instead of an alarm beeping insistently and loudly at you, build up to it. You could try the Philips Wake up light (sounds + light slowly increasing in intensity). There are even apps that can do it for you on the phone now, if I'm not mistaken.

    You can't always judge the quality of your sleep by how long you're sleeping. People with sleep apnea usually don't know they have it, but are in fact really sleep deprived.

    (Something I feel I need to add: people with sleep issues who have difficulty getting out of bed always seem to think the rest of us just fall out of bed and are awake. That's not true. I do get out within 15 seconds after the alarm goes, but I shuffle off like a 3-year-old zombie. I too need to wake up and it takes me a while as well. So that's not abnormal.)

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    My girlfriend is like you, if she stops paying attention, her day shifts by an hour every day and it gets harder and harder to get up.

    What works for her is to force regularity in her life and go to bed every day, even on weekends and vacation, at the exact same time.

    There's even a timer in the appartment that turns off the lights at 11:30pm. She then goes to bed and falls asleep around midnight. It works well for her.

    It takes her about a week to fall back into that cycle when she breaks it, so she tries to avoid breaking the routine.

    Also, when she starts slipping and getting up later and later, she gets progressively more tired, even when she gets more than enough sleep (8+ hours).

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    I also tend towards a 26-hour day. The easiest way to fix it is to just stay up through the night and the next day, and go to sleep at the normal time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAI Peregrinus View Post
    I also tend towards a 26-hour day. The easiest way to fix it is to just stay up through the night and the next day, and go to sleep at the normal time.
    This approach works but failing to pull off this manoeuvre will fuck you up if you have any responsibilities to deal with the following day.

    Forcing yourself into a regular pattern, going to bed and waking up at the same time every day is the best solution because it will result in the most daylight hours possible, you'll also tend to be tired less.

    Exercise will help you feel tired enough in the evenings to drop off on time which is the biggest problem.

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    I used to have a sort of 26 hour day problem which resolved itself pretty quickly when I started working out regularly. I had a couple of days where I had to force myself out of bed before 8.30 and now I have a job I find it pretty easy to wake up at 5 every morning and get to bed before midnight. I feel much more refreshed when I wake up too.

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