Greece is also going to donate 40-80 2A4's.
They got 3 months to prep the tanks. Should be in time for the offensive.
But there are differences on peacetime and wartime readiness, same with training.
Greece is also going to donate 40-80 2A4's.
They got 3 months to prep the tanks. Should be in time for the offensive.
But there are differences on peacetime and wartime readiness, same with training.
Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???
True but i imagine the Greek MBT's to be in a good (war time ready) state with the Sultan's sabble rateling the last decade. Also if anything the Ukr will need a lot of ammo for whatever tanks they will get handed, like a LOT of ammo (and barrels etc).Originally Posted by VARRAKK
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First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident..
No surpise there: FHC armchair generals, best armchair generals.... and now they have both T-XX and Leos: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ds-2023-01-27/
It's good to know that world leaders are monitoring this thread for ideas.
We kinda ran out of those.
Specifically because they were all donated already.We kinda ran out of those.
Yup. What has been donated already, not promised to be delivered sometimes in the future, donated already:Specifically because they were all donated already.We kinda ran out of those.
Spoiler:
Mig-29s moved as spare parts not included.
Another 60+ T-72/PT-91 apart from that being moved atm.
Switzerland bough 380 Leopard 2s, they have 134ish in use but close to 100 in storage.
Politicians are currently debating to sell 30~ of these (not to Ukraine directily) but to partner countries that transferred their tanks to Ukraine.
Looks as even always "neutral" Switzerland sees Russia as the bear in the room.
https://www.blick.ch/politik/neuer-a...d18269877.html
Old footage, anything gruesome has been pixellated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpx7TWc58PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQeyk1BQ7LE
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That series (there are 3 afaik) is intense. Absolutely crazy to watch imho.
There is some controversy around the circumstances for the last part though, so far its very rumor-ish so take it for what it is. Originates from a comment by a Finnish volunteer in that group on twitter and some 4chan like board, apparently they negotiated with the Ruzzians to surrender and when their leader came out, unarmed, one of the US guys shot him point blank in the head with a "fuck that guy" comment.
This apparently is during one of those moments that the GoPro "stops recording for some reason" (this has happened more than once which has been questioned before, what was cut out and why). Anyway, that whole thing caused the Ruzzians to dig in and fight for their lives and if true, and that is a big IF, caused the volunteer squad to be around too long and ends up taking that shell at the end with horrible outcome.
New Javelins, GLSDB and other thingies to fight the Russian invaders.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-rea...es-2023-01-31/
I foresee another plague of smoking accidents at recently moved russian ammo depots.
Is this double HIMARs range?I foresee another plague of smoking accidents at recently moved russian ammo depots.
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himars doesn't have a range, the basic GLMRS rockets ukraine has for that system have 80km range. The ATACMS missiles (one per canister instead of 6 GLMRS or GLSDB) would have almost 400km range, but none have been delivered to Ukraine. So the GLSDB would be additional 70km of reach.Shorter range than HIMARS (150km vs 400km) and only a bit cheaper (40 vs 100k). Whats the advantage?I foresee another plague of smoking accidents at recently moved russian ammo depots.
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The troops defending Bakhmut, compare fighting Russia's Wagner cannon fodder, to a scene out of a zombie movie. “They’re climbing over the corpse of their friends.” Say their AK-47 rifles became so hot from constant firing, they had to keep changing them.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/01/e...cmd/index.html
No, from what I read, apparently it's more like 95km, which is still a very useful increment.Is this double HIMARs range?I foresee another plague of smoking accidents at recently moved russian ammo depots.
If nothing else it means the Russians will have to move their supply depots back, which then adds another 20+20km (at minimum) to the round trip the supply trucks have to make, exposes airfields which may previously have been just safely out of range &c. It can also do horrible, horrible things to exposed concentrations of vehicles & armor that vanilla HIMARS rockets can't, whether in range or not.
It doesn't put the Kerch bridge in range of any territory Ukraine holds at the moment, but traffic on that bridge on the road between Melitopol and Simferopol (ie: the eastern land route into Crimea) will become vulnerable, which will in turn increase reliance on Kerch.
Wrong. Depili is correct. It's 95 freedom units instead of km. It almost doubles the range of himars Ukraine has. And it also carries bigger payload, 250lb for GLSDB vs 200lb for GLMRS. You won't see ATACMS in Ukraine anytime soon as price per unit is above $1m. Meanwhile USA literally sits on piles of GLSDB that are leftover from Afghanistan and cost $40k per unit. Quite a difference.No, from what I read, apparently it's more like 95km, which is still a very useful increment.Is this double HIMARs range?I foresee another plague of smoking accidents at recently moved russian ammo depots.
If nothing else it means the Russians will have to move their supply depots back, which then adds another 20+20km (at minimum) to the round trip the supply trucks have to make, exposes airfields which may previously have been just safely out of range &c. It can also do horrible, horrible things to exposed concentrations of vehicles & armor that vanilla HIMARS rockets can't, whether in range or not.
It doesn't put the Kerch bridge in range of any territory Ukraine holds at the moment, but traffic on that bridge on the road between Melitopol and Simferopol (ie: the eastern land route into Crimea) will become vulnerable, which will in turn increase reliance on Kerch.
What remains to be seen is how effective the russian air defense is against the GLSDB, as it is a slower glider than the ballistic GLMRS, and Ukraine has shown that even cruise missiles can be countered with quite good success rate.
With the performance shown so far I'm not at all worried.
UAF now saying outright Russia has assembled ~500,000 troops for a new offensive. Let's hope that defender advantage is enough for them to weather that storm.
On the plus side, Russia hasn't replaced anything like the tanks they've lost, nor the aviation and definitely not the naval assets they had. Ukraine is on the other hand actually better equipped on everything except aviation.
On the negative, they've had a year to learn that Ukraine aint a pushover, that this isn't going to be a 2 week action holiday followed by a decade of happy genocide times like they were planning, and at least some of them have a notion of what they're doing now. Ukraine can't expect them to come in dumb like they did last time.
Sure hope those tanks are going to get there a little quicker than expected. Even those 14 Challenger IIs might see service. Special ammo for one tank platoon isn't that big an issue when you're facing half a million meth'd up vatniks.
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