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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Russia deployed their very special forces specialist to Olenivka prison.



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    Where's Gérard Depardieu one would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Here's a question for all the armchair experts here (no sarcasms and irony, I'm pretty sure someone here knows it). How did Ukraine manage to lauch HARMs? Are they fired similiar to AMRAAM mad dogs, without lock from the platform? There's some fancy jury rigging going on here. Even so, rails can be adopted, but does it support launch without internal guidance? I was always under impression you need to lock on the target you're shooting at before it switches towards it's own sensor. So many questions and Hels etc is nowhere to be seen. Help me out DCS bros, because I have F4:BMS memorized and it shouldn't be possible.
    Why would you think they were using HARMs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordstern View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Here's a question for all the armchair experts here (no sarcasms and irony, I'm pretty sure someone here knows it). How did Ukraine manage to lauch HARMs? Are they fired similiar to AMRAAM mad dogs, without lock from the platform? There's some fancy jury rigging going on here. Even so, rails can be adopted, but does it support launch without internal guidance? I was always under impression you need to lock on the target you're shooting at before it switches towards it's own sensor. So many questions and Hels etc is nowhere to be seen. Help me out DCS bros, because I have F4:BMS memorized and it shouldn't be possible.
    Why would you think they were using HARMs?
    Because they said so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Here's a question for all the armchair experts here (no sarcasms and irony, I'm pretty sure someone here knows it). How did Ukraine manage to lauch HARMs? Are they fired similiar to AMRAAM mad dogs, without lock from the platform? There's some fancy jury rigging going on here. Even so, rails can be adopted, but does it support launch without internal guidance? I was always under impression you need to lock on the target you're shooting at before it switches towards it's own sensor. So many questions and Hels etc is nowhere to be seen. Help me out DCS bros, because I have F4:BMS memorized and it shouldn't be possible.
    Why would you think they were using HARMs?
    Because they said so.
    Haven't heard anything about that. Then again, I've been following my stock positions more closely than the war. Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Here's a question for all the armchair experts here (no sarcasms and irony, I'm pretty sure someone here knows it). How did Ukraine manage to lauch HARMs? Are they fired similiar to AMRAAM mad dogs, without lock from the platform? There's some fancy jury rigging going on here. Even so, rails can be adopted, but does it support launch without internal guidance? I was always under impression you need to lock on the target you're shooting at before it switches towards it's own sensor. So many questions and Hels etc is nowhere to be seen. Help me out DCS bros, because I have F4:BMS memorized and it shouldn't be possible.
    Why would you think they were using HARMs?
    Because they said so.
    And because US has said to have delivered anti radiation missiles, they could be old soviet stock, but then again there are at least photos of the remains of one claimed HARM missile from Ukraine.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ation-missiles
    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ent-to-ukraine

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    A Twitter thread that I'm unable to locate right now mentioned a "pre-briefed" mode that would allow the anti-radiation missiles to be fired without requiring a compatible datalink - the approximate target coordinates are flashed in before takeoff, and the plane simply releases them flying in the general direction. Missile them arms itself and starts looking for a target when approaching the designated area.

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    BREAKING:

    8 large explosions reported from Ziabrauka airfield near Homel in Belarus.

    Lots of Russian military gear is stationed there & the Russians often launch attack against Ukraine from Ziabrauka.

    Ukraine might have counterattacked Belarusian territory for the first time
    Perhaps this Belarus action is a false flag? Triggered the day after the Crimea attack to spark "outrage" in the Russian population?
    Or just a gesture of good will.

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    Or UKR is just removing a variable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    BREAKING:

    8 large explosions reported from Ziabrauka airfield near Homel in Belarus.

    Lots of Russian military gear is stationed there & the Russians often launch attack against Ukraine from Ziabrauka.

    Ukraine might have counterattacked Belarusian territory for the first time
    Perhaps this Belarus action is a false flag? Triggered the day after the Crimea attack to spark "outrage" in the Russian population?
    Or just a gesture of good will.
    Why bother? Belarus is hardly pretending to be neutral.. Also better to false-flag civilian targets not your actual logistics.

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    What's Ukraine using to launch HARMs? What even is the state of there air forces atm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    What's Ukraine using to launch HARMs? What even is the state of there air forces atm?
    They use MIG-29's.
    I'm guessing some of the ones they gotten, was upgraded to carry NATO missiles.
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    I'm 100% sure our Migs were not able to carry HARMs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    BREAKING:

    8 large explosions reported from Ziabrauka airfield near Homel in Belarus.

    Lots of Russian military gear is stationed there & the Russians often launch attack against Ukraine from Ziabrauka.

    Ukraine might have counterattacked Belarusian territory for the first time
    Perhaps this Belarus action is a false flag? Triggered the day after the Crimea attack to spark "outrage" in the Russian population?
    Or just a gesture of good will.
    Or just russians smoking in the wrong location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pattern View Post
    What's Ukraine using to launch HARMs? What even is the state of there air forces atm?
    They use MIG-29's.
    I'm guessing some of the ones they gotten, was upgraded to carry NATO missiles.
    Disclaimer: pure speculation. The poles had MIGs that had their electronics basically rebuild to be Nato compatible, right? Maybe they can fire the AGMs and if only a small number found their way into the ukrainian arsenal, they could saddle the sweet spot of not too much of a hassle for logis bros while giving a whole new suite of capabilities.
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    Latest update sets losses to 15-20 planes destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Appleby View Post
    Russia claims to have destroyed 2 HIMARS launchers.

    https://warisboring.com/russia-repor...ile-launchers/
    It seems its BS tho.
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    Russia claims to have destroyed 2 HIMARS launchers.

    https://warisboring.com/russia-repor...ile-launchers/
    "[...] were destroyed by air-launched high-precision missiles"


    If true, then back to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jori McKie View Post
    The most important point is air superiority or in case of Ukraine to deny it. You don't need fixed winged planes to archive that, you need lots of short and long range anti aircraft/missile systems, like IRIS-T SLM, Patriot, handheld stuff, stinger etc. You build a cone of "can't fly here" and then move it with your arti, tanks etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by theBlind View Post
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    What's Ukraine using to launch HARMs? What even is the state of there air forces atm?
    They use MIG-29's.
    I'm guessing some of the ones they gotten, was upgraded to carry NATO missiles.
    Disclaimer: pure speculation. The poles had MIGs that had their electronics basically rebuild to be Nato compatible, right? Maybe they can fire the AGMs and if only a small number found their way into the ukrainian arsenal, they could saddle the sweet spot of not too much of a hassle for logis bros while giving a whole new suite of capabilities.
    The Polish Migs are mostly (if not completely) from German inventory. Since the Bundeswehr used them after Reunification, they got upgraded to NATO standards in my hometown. However I am not sure they got upgraded to use Western weapons. But as pointed out by Halka, they can be fired without any control from the airplane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    Latest update sets losses to 15-20 planes destroyed.
    https://t.me/UAonlii/34939

    Last count according telegram: 8 SU-27, 6 Mi-8, 5 SU-24, 4 SU-30M, 1 ІL-20RT and 4 ammunition depots.

    Russian Navy’s 43rd Independent Naval Attack Aviation Regiment only operates 12 Su-30SMs, 6 Su-24Ms, and 6 Su-24MRs, so if any of those are theirs, they are looking at quite heavy losses.
    There is a S400 battery in Yevpatoriya, some 40 km away, not a good day for Russian ad, unless of course the mythical Russian smoker has hit again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mashie Saldana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    BREAKING:

    8 large explosions reported from Ziabrauka airfield near Homel in Belarus.

    Lots of Russian military gear is stationed there & the Russians often launch attack against Ukraine from Ziabrauka.

    Ukraine might have counterattacked Belarusian territory for the first time
    Perhaps this Belarus action is a false flag? Triggered the day after the Crimea attack to spark "outrage" in the Russian population?
    Or just a gesture of good will.
    Or just russians smoking in the wrong location.
    Report is Russian smoker stationed in Crimea was redeployed to Belarus....

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    Did they photoshop/enhance the text on those fragments for visibility?
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