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    Amazing what three tons of fertilizer and diesel can do. In comparison Breivik used 950 kg terror bombing Oslo.

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    I feel like saying to candy about trimming the trackers from his urls but I don't think they would understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    How about that upcoming no-gas zone in Europe is what I worry a bit more about.
    There will surely be no right wing shift once material conditions aren't met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkaday View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    How about that upcoming no-gas zone in Europe is what I worry a bit more about.
    There will surely be no right wing shift once material conditions aren't met.
    No more than what's already happened thanks to the messaging around that expectation, frankly
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    So russians want to take revenge for HIMARs wrecking them. Take a guess what's the priority target for them:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...strike_terror/

    Everyone arguing for appeasement, loosing sanctions etc, is a failure of a human being. It's sad because of people valuing their bussines with russia more things like that happen.

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    Russia is a terrorist state and should be sanctioned as such

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Russia is a terrorist state and should be sanctioned as such
    I mean they kind of are already, but yes and more.

    Also we should give more shiny to the Ukrainians to kill terrorists with
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    The problem with these sanctions is that we hardly can tell how effective they're are .. at least the general public. And of all countries, due to its rich natural resources, Russia is one of those suffering the least from sanctions unfortunately. Or at least they don't hurt Russia as much as we wish in the short term.

    Still, they're a strong political signal and should be kept up, of course.

    And honestly the amount of whining going on in Germany is disgusting. There's literally blood on the streets next door, so to speak, but the German sucker is unable to keep his fucking car at home and use public transport instead for the time being, because it's "inconvenient".

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    Declaring Russia as a Terrorist State or State Sponsor of Terrorism with have a backlash on the international community so hard, it is still not ready to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hel OWeen View Post
    The problem with these sanctions is that we hardly can tell how effective they're are ..
    By Moscow's own cherrypicked, wartime propagandising, Putin-pleasing figures, Russia will see a ~7% GDP shrink in 2022. That compares to 6% for the US in the Great Depression 1930-31, but compressed into 10 months. And that's including a number of short term, robbing the future type policies. Realistically it's 10%+ 2023 will be considerably worse.

    The Russian government has, correctly, called the sanctions "Economic warfare", because they are. Sanctions are working, which is why the Russian state is bitching about them so very much.

    They probably won't lead to a revolution but they will give a very very strong impetus to the regions outside the Moscow-St Petersberg axis to, shall we say, consider their options.
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    If you think parts of Russia will secede over this you obviously don't understand Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    If you think parts of Russia will secede over this you obviously don't understand Russia.
    Some regions have already forbidden the export of foodstuffs (like sugar) to other areas of Russia. So yes, in a sense they have seceded.

    Putin, of course, is entirely blameless. It's those corrupt local governors who are the reason why there's a food shortage.
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    And the gas is currently pretty much the only straw putin has, and sure as hell he'll do everything to prevent building stockpiles, gotta keep that stranglehold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    If you think parts of Russia will secede over this you obviously don't understand Russia.
    Do you understand Russia?
    Quote Originally Posted by Isyel View Post
    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    This was super interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZQMUclv5g
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    If you think parts of Russia will secede over this you obviously don't understand Russia.
    Do you understand Russia?
    Most of Russia doesn't even understand Russia, other than Russia stronk.
    I was somewhere around Old Man Star, on the edge of Essence, when drugs began to take hold.

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    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    The absurdity of it all is both laughable and very sad.
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