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Thread: Ukraine: Russian Invasion

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
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    There are Unconfirmed Reports that after 2359 Moscow Local Time tonight,
    it will be Illegal for Military Aged Men between the ages of 18-65 to leave Russia
    and all Territories Occupied by the Russian Federation.
    I wonder how Razor and his friends feel about getting conscripted. It might just be safer to oust the leadership instead.
    All sorts of mixed messages appearing

    Translation:

    general mobilization everywhere but moscow and st petersburg oblast.

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    Translation: Poors will be conscripted. Oligarchs and pro-war commentators need not worry.
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    No idea what the Russians think that they are doing.

    They have already stripped their training units to supply bodies for Ukraine, bodies who are already dead, wounded, captured, or demoralised. And normal conscript training is just bashings, theft and sodomy from the NCOs.

    It takes six weeks of training to turn out a barely functional rifleman, twelve weeks to train an adequate one. Months more training to produce a specialist.

    And what will they be equipped with? Is Russia planning to buy weapon systems from Syria and North Korea? Demanding in the UN that Ukraine returns captured weapons isn't going to work. To paraphrase 300 it is Urkaine's arm now.

    Sending in light infantry will achieve little.

    Maybe the new Russian plan is to flood the Ukrainians with corpses and POWs beyond theiy capacity to manage them. Swap out the average fetal-alcohol syndrome Russian from abducted Ukrainian children.

    Or maybe the Russians think that Ukrainians are Futurarma KIllbots, and if they simply send wave after wave of conscripts against them they'll all reach their programmed kill totals and switch off.

    None of these new troops are going to arrive before December, and the Russians cannot supply reinforcements now.

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    Shoigu apparently chimed in with threats of taking down civilian and military satellites.

    Please do, Russia. Go ahead and make my day!

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    Russia's current "army" in Ukraine is 80-100k troops. With adding 300k in x weeks.
    The Ukrainian army is around 400k troops, possibly even more.

    To successfully invade a country you need 5x amount of troops.
    These 300k reservist not gonna have any effect on the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    Russia's current "army" in Ukraine is 80-100k troops. With adding 300k in x weeks.
    The Ukrainian army is around 400k troops, possibly even more.

    To successfully invade a country you need 5x amount of troops.
    These 300k reservist not gonna have any effect on the outcome.
    Currently Ukraine has the numbers they need to keep attacking though and Russia wants to stop the rapid territory loss before winter sets in and most offensive actions stop/become very difficult.

    I would assume reservists would have some level of training already and it would appear it would solve a lot of the manpower issues even if the equipment is limited (manpower appears to be why they have so many tanks wondering into ambushes without support).

    In terms of equipment I'm not sure how fast Russia can produce new tanks etc, but it would feel like sticking new troops into T62's won't provide an effective attacking force but perhaps an adequate defensive one, to give them the time to do some traditional ethnic cleansing and rig some referendums on the captured territories and slow reconstitute the army.

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    Putin was grinding for Army XP so he can update his templates before he banks enough political power to go on Partial Mobilization. Only real HoI4 players understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
    Shoigu apparently chimed in with threats of taking down civilian and military satellites.

    Please do, Russia. Go ahead and make my day!
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    In recent months russia has been able to refurbish something like 10 tanks per month based on open sources. No new tanks are being built. From intercepted communications released by the ukrainians many of the tanks they had near Kharkiv many either didn't have working drive or gun.

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    There are a number of Ukrainian reports in the last few hours that the Russian colonial militia has abandoned Lyman.
    The next city is Lysychansk.
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    And no, the there hasn't been any new restrictions about leaving the motherland, and so pretty much all transportation out of Russia has been sold out.

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    Why is it called earth, when it is mostly water???

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    From what I have seen the Russian tourniquet provided in their first aid kits is just a length of bike tire inner tubing that might work on a bare limb but has little effect through thick clothing.

    I've also noticed that the Russians rarely risk themselves to save other Russians. Unless those two soldiers were by themselves for some reason their comrades let them die rather than risking themselves by helping.

    I can't have much sympathy though given what is being uncovered off the phones of Russian dead and POWs. They filmed themselves commiting everything from rape and murder down to carving swastikas into yelping dogs.

    It is also sad that Iranians put up more of a fight against their tyranical government than the Russians seem capable of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximillian View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    From what I have seen the Russian tourniquet provided in their first aid kits is just a length of bike tire inner tubing that might work on a bare limb but has little effect through thick clothing.

    I've also noticed that the Russians rarely risk themselves to save other Russians. Unless those two soldiers were by themselves for some reason their comrades let them die rather than risking themselves by helping.

    I can't have much sympathy though given what is being uncovered off the phones of Russian dead and POWs. They filmed themselves commiting everything from rape and murder down to carving swastikas into yelping dogs.

    It is also sad that Iranians put up more of a fight against their tyranical government than the Russians seem capable of.
    Why would they fight with something they agree and applaud. It's another western made fallacy about russia. People who would maybe fight fled russia and keep fleeing.

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    US general commenting on russian training

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...524838915.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    US general commenting on russian training

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...524838915.html
    Russia is going medieval. So we can expect Russian troops equipped with pikes, bows and some specialists with crossbows

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    Razbro should be "safe" from conscription since he never served cause of some disability iirc, but now we'll see how much that's worth with the latest turn of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lief Siddhe View Post
    Razbro should be "safe" from conscription since he never served cause of some disability iirc, but now we'll see how much that's worth with the latest turn of events.
    Those who did not previously serve in the army are also being called up. They said those who had served before but the legislation was far broader.

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