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    Cascade failures, just like we familiar with from EVE
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    The conspiracy take; its bad to have your troops and "friends" in places where tactical nukes will drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    The conspiracy take; its bad to have your troops and "friends" in places where tactical nukes will drop.
    I do find this a concern, if Ukr wil invade RusRus proper tactical nukes will fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
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    The conspiracy take; its bad to have your troops and "friends" in places where tactical nukes will drop.
    I do find this a concern, if Ukr wil invade RusRus proper tactical nukes will fly.
    They wont, that Im sure of. But I can absolutely see them sending things that go boom across the boarder into Rus territory if they try to hide behind the line and keep shelling.
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    When I see a bird that walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck id call it a duck.
    And if the bird denies to be a duck it is a russian duck.

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    What is going on? Internet reading too much into it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VARRAKK View Post
    What is going on? Internet reading too much into it?
    Internet reading too much into it. It's a classic my friend's friend said. The webcams show normal traffic.

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    I would like to welcome the nation and armed forces of Russia to being called "Vodka swilling surrender-monkeys" for the next generation or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacul View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa [NSN] View Post
    The conspiracy take; its bad to have your troops and "friends" in places where tactical nukes will drop.
    I do find this a concern, if Ukr wil invade RusRus proper tactical nukes will fly.
    Crimea ain't RusRus proper though
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    And btw, you're such a fucking asshole it genuinely amazes me on a regular basis how you manage to function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
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    The conspiracy take; its bad to have your troops and "friends" in places where tactical nukes will drop.
    I do find this a concern, if Ukr wil invade RusRus proper tactical nukes will fly.
    Crimea ain't RusRus proper though
    If Ukraine wanted to invade russia proper they would be in Belgorod 2 days ago. Russians taught they will and even started evacuating civilian population. But for some weird reason Ukraine stopped at russian border.

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    Assuming Ukraine clears all of its territories of invaders, Crimea included, and wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, demanding monetary reparations for the loss of life and damage caused, what leverage would Ukraine have over Russia to enforce it? What stops the Russians from simply going: "peace yes, money no, and if you start shit over that, we'll nuke you"? I know, I'm simplifying this ad absurdum, but I'm curious to know if a military victory of that scope would actually be enough for Russia to treat any negotiations honestly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
    Assuming Ukraine clears all of its territories of invaders, Crimea included, and wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, demanding monetary reparations for the loss of life and damage caused, what leverage would Ukraine have over Russia to enforce it? What stops the Russians from simply going: "peace yes, money no, and if you start shit over that, we'll nuke you"? I know, I'm simplifying this ad absurdum, but I'm curious to know if a military victory of that scope would actually be enough for Russia to treat any negotiations honestly.
    russia, negotiations and honestly do not belong in the same sentence as Germany is learning last few months. Tbh if they gtfo from Ukraine that's good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
    Assuming Ukraine clears all of its territories of invaders, Crimea included, and wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, demanding monetary reparations for the loss of life and damage caused, what leverage would Ukraine have over Russia to enforce it? What stops the Russians from simply going: "peace yes, money no, and if you start shit over that, we'll nuke you"? I know, I'm simplifying this ad absurdum, but I'm curious to know if a military victory of that scope would actually be enough for Russia to treat any negotiations honestly.
    russia, negotiations and honestly do not belong in the same sentence as Germany is learning last few months. Tbh if they gtfo from Ukraine that's good enough.
    Im pretty sure West needs to keep up sanctions and ease it little by little, and any sign of Russian non-compliance with peace treaty and its turned up again.

    No one will trust Russia's word ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufuske View Post
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    I think we need to petition a lot of game development studios to rebalance their games.
    It's a part of their propaganda effort. And Gaijin even made some donations to Wagner Group. So go figure...
    Source on this?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...e-adverts.html
    That had nothing to do with the wagner group as far as I can see. I mean its not a good look either way but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
    Assuming Ukraine clears all of its territories of invaders, Crimea included, and wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, demanding monetary reparations for the loss of life and damage caused, what leverage would Ukraine have over Russia to enforce it? What stops the Russians from simply going: "peace yes, money no, and if you start shit over that, we'll nuke you"? I know, I'm simplifying this ad absurdum, but I'm curious to know if a military victory of that scope would actually be enough for Russia to treat any negotiations honestly.
    That gas pipeline, for one thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by helgur View Post
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    I think we need to petition a lot of game development studios to rebalance their games.
    It's a part of their propaganda effort. And Gaijin even made some donations to Wagner Group. So go figure...
    Source on this?
    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...e-adverts.html
    That had nothing to do with the wagner group as far as I can see. I mean its not a good look either way but still.
    There were threads both on their forums and reddits with more details but they went full stalin photographs on them. Web archive might be better place to look, or maybe google will suffice but needs more attention than 30s search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lubica View Post
    Assuming Ukraine clears all of its territories of invaders, Crimea included, and wants to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia, demanding monetary reparations for the loss of life and damage caused, what leverage would Ukraine have over Russia to enforce it? What stops the Russians from simply going: "peace yes, money no, and if you start shit over that, we'll nuke you"? I know, I'm simplifying this ad absurdum, but I'm curious to know if a military victory of that scope would actually be enough for Russia to treat any negotiations honestly.
    Ukraine won't touch russian territory as they will be painted as invaders and lose the moral high ground. They just want their territory back is a pretty simple message everyone can get behind.

    The peace negotiation with Russia will probably not involve reparations or even handing over war criminals but instead be an agreement to end hostilities with reassurance from West that full sanctions plus military intervention will happen for any future invasions.

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