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    Apparently there's been another, uh, smoking accident in Sevastopol. This time the oil refinery has gone up in smoke, along with 40 thousand tons of fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Apparently there's been another, uh, smoking accident in Sevastopol. This time the oil refinery has gone up in smoke, along with 40 thousand tons of fuel.
    That can't be right. 40kt of fuel oil is not a lot.
    We have single tanks at 65 000cmb which should be around 40kt when converted to weight.
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    Tanks do not mass 40,000 metric tons, even in Hitler's most meth-addled fantasies

    Oh, those kind of tanks. Well IDK, maybe they weren't all 100% full?
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    It does not matter what tonnage was destroyed, it matters that it was deep behind front lines.
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    Still, it's a shitshow as auxillary tanks are interconnected. Might not the damage we want, yet is a plenty of chaos on the site to keep it contained.

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    Basically Sevastopol is now considerably less useful as a naval base until that depot is rebuilt. And it's not going to be rebuilt within the timeframe of this conflict.

    And as Sacul correctly points it, it's a savage propaganda blow for the Russian occupiers. Lotta russians booking it across that bridge while there is still a bridge to book it across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Basically Sevastopol is now considerably less useful as a naval base until that depot is rebuilt. And it's not going to be rebuilt within the timeframe of this conflict.

    And as Sacul correctly points it, it's a savage propaganda blow for the Russian occupiers. Lotta russians booking it across that bridge while there is still a bridge to book it across.
    It is pretty big deal to take out a depot. They are very complex facilities, and why there are so few of them.
    It must either have access to a deep water port or a pipeline so I doubt Crimea got more than one since it takes 2-3 hours to drive across.

    The only way to replenish their fleet in Sevastopol will be by barges. A very vulnerable operation in a warzone.
    Likely ships will have to go to another port to refuel or do it at sea outside of Ukraine's reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Basically Sevastopol is now considerably less useful as a naval base until that depot is rebuilt. And it's not going to be rebuilt within the timeframe of this conflict.

    And as Sacul correctly points it, it's a savage propaganda blow for the Russian occupiers. Lotta russians booking it across that bridge while there is still a bridge to book it across.
    Zelensky made the point the other day that Russia hasn't developed Crimea at all since 2014.
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    Finland is negotiating a defensive cooperation agreement with the United States, which, among other things, allows the construction of American military bases on Finnish territory.
    American bases right next to the suburbs of Saint Petersburg?
    Everything is going according to the plan.

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    I wonder what the Russian talk shows will threaten Finland with for this? Maybe I'm a little spoiled, but the threats towards the UK have been quite imaginative, and I appreciate that kind of effort. I feel like Finland at least deserve to be threatened with kamikaze reindeer or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    I wonder what the Russian talk shows will threaten Finland with for this? Maybe I'm a little spoiled, but the threats towards the UK have been quite imaginative, and I appreciate that kind of effort. I feel like Finland at least deserve to be threatened with kamikaze reindeer or something.
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    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/2/7400287/

    Ukrainian Defence Minister suggests that Russia is preparing new "goodwill gesture"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Crush View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    I wonder what the Russian talk shows will threaten Finland with for this? Maybe I'm a little spoiled, but the threats towards the UK have been quite imaginative, and I appreciate that kind of effort. I feel like Finland at least deserve to be threatened with kamikaze reindeer or something.
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    We got the honor to host Zelensky today, the visit was announced 30min before he is supposed to give a public speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    We got the honor to host Zelensky today, the visit was announced 30min before he is supposed to give a public speech.
    I see in the news he is in Helsinki today. Not outfitted in all green either.
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    The visit was quite nicely masked with the nordic defense minister meetup that was announced some time ago as a cover.

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    And the joint nordic statement is now out, calling for Russia to withdraw all of its troops from the sovereign territority (per-2014 borders) of Ukraine unconditionally and immediately.

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    Russia are claiming to have shot down 2 Ukrainian drones en route to the Kremlin last night, the Ukrainian government are declining to comment.

    Worth a try I guess.
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    Kinda looks like a false flag to "justify" full mobilization.

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    An interesting article about fighting in the Dnipro delta near Kherson. Not the spring offensive, but a long-running, bloody yet underreported fight.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-delta-kherson

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