Ukraine: Russian Invasion

[depili]

The nuclear option has been quite greatly affecting what support is given to Ukraine, but then again the realization that this will continue unless stopped has hit the rest of the world. Key in this case probably was Ukraine showing that it has the will and ability to fight back and thus the military equipment support started flowing in. In the case of Finland our firm belief is that it is cheaper to get Ukrainians to blow up the grads instead of having to blow them up ourselves in few years.

[Keckers]

Did that tweet just describe the basic concept of Blitzkrieg?

I don't think Suvorov ever called it blitzkrieg.

[Malcanis]

Yep the cheapest way to resolve this is to help the Ukrainians win as quickly as possible. Russia is not governed by a regime that is capable of making peace or being a trade partner.

By avoiding a nuclear catastrophe. Russia is governed by a regime fully capable of letting loose its nuclear arsenal just because they're that daft.

When was the last time Russia conducted a nuclear weapons test?

Are you serious, how is that relevant? They have the largest arsenal and even if let's say 90% of it is shit and doesn't launch/go off there is still 10% of it that is comprised of city killers. The devastation would be immeasurable.

@Malcanis - yeah, I agree that they shouldn't be allowed to do what they want but balancing what they want against nuclear obliteration I feel it's heavily leaning on treading carefully.

They yell about their nukes because yelling about their nukes is all they have. That doesn't mean that everyone in the decision tree is OK with the utter erasure of the Russian nation, including themselves and all the people they care about, because Putin didn't get his short, victorious war that he wanted.

[rufuske]

Meanwhile somewhere between Kharkiv and Kupiansk

[Candy Crush]

Meanwhile somewhere between Kharkiv and Kupiansk

Generation Kill vibes

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[Sacul]

Yep the cheapest way to resolve this is to help the Ukrainians win as quickly as possible. Russia is not governed by a regime that is capable of making peace or being a trade partner.

By avoiding a nuclear catastrophe. Russia is governed by a regime fully capable of letting loose its nuclear arsenal just because they're that daft.

Well gee fucking wizz, better let them do whatever they like then. God forbid we hurt Putin's feelings

Seriously, how many times do we have to have this stupid go-round?

Meanwhile, fresh from the Department of Hurting Bitchboi Putin's feelings:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...665051648.html

putin is a moron, and now all can finally see that.

9/end

[rufuske]

Meanwhile somewhere between Kharkiv and Kupiansk

Generation Kill vibes

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Razor must be sporting the most confusing boner.

[VARRAKK]

Someone is aiming for all the war crime achievements

[Kilabi]

Meanwhile somewhere between Kharkiv and Kupiansk

Generation Kill vibes

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https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._russian_held/

I thought those are closed turrets humvees. Another video from the open turret gunners view here.

[Nordstern]

Plot twist: They were rations given to disobedient Russian troops.

[rufuske]

On twitter prorussians claim it's all cgi...I don't even.

[Lowa [NSN]]

Meanwhile somewhere between Kharkiv and Kupiansk

Generation Kill vibes

  Spoiler:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._russian_held/

I thought those are closed turrets humvees. Another video from the open turret gunners view here.

"Ammo! 50! AMMO!"
"Here, take this AT4"
"BOOM!"
"AMMO! AMMO! 50 CAL! FOR GUN!"
"Another AT4 you say, ok here!"
"God damn...ok fine, let me just duck out of the incoming bullets and then no scope it on target!"

One of the wildest things I've ever seen! And then you have the infantry moving on the right, back of the houses and it kicks off with one of the guys taking a tracer(?) through the side of the vest!

[rufuske]

Remember, it's all cgi.

[Candy Crush]

Discount Sean Connery, really sad to see.

[VARRAKK]

Discount Sean Connery, really sad to see.

No need for protection if you don't get hit.
He didn't get that old by being hit, logic.

[walrus]

[VARRAKK]

[Jori McKie]

Quite up to date summary of what's going on (i assume what happened yesterday or the day before) and some interesting assessments what Russian are going to do counter-attack wise. In essence if the Russian counter-attack fails this will be a huge win for Ukraine not only tactical but strategical for the whole war. Details in the video

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP2...2TKc8NZmeDWSUg

[rufuske]

It will be very hard for them to counter attack. Kupiansk bridge is already gone according to wagner group telegram, so it's not pro-ukraine wishful thinking. Senkove and Horokhovatka are also under Ukraine control. It's himars and st javelin country now.



Russian telegram channels are screaming for retreat from Izium to Oskil and it's a very sensible thing to do because river will serve as natural barrier, this time on the defence for russians.

Next two days are going to be even more interesting.

[Jori McKie]

It will be very hard for them to counter attack. Kupiansk bridge is already gone according to wagner group telegram, so it's not pro-ukraine wishful thinking. Senkove and Horokhovatka are also under Ukraine control. It's himars and st javelin country now.



Russian telegram channels are screaming for retreat from Izium to Oskil and it's a very sensible thing to do because river will serve as natural barrier, this time on the defence for russians.

Next two days are going to be even more interesting.

Good !!

Lets say in 2 to 5 days (i guess they need that time to mount some) we know exactly, if the Russian tried a counter-attack or not. I hope Ukraine has enough troops to consolidate their gains as that means Izyum and the whole Luhanks front will have severe supply problems.