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    It's ~10% weaker resists, and yes less range, but it's hardly much slower(<100m/s diff even with heat), less EHP or of a concern about dps application.
    [Omen Navy Issue, cheap scram]

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    Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I

    Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
    Heat Sink II
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    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
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    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Damage Control II

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    If you want the long point you do need to swap an EANM to an ANP dropping just a couple of % EHP but you get a T2 long point and MAR again. Chiefly it's less than half the price of the Zealot when fitted. And you aren't as fucked by a frigate.

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    This setup arose from a "what the fuck do I do with the LG halo set I bought and put in while drunk?"


    [Zealot, ghosty]
    Internal Force Field Array I
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    Tracking Enhancer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II
    Heat Sink II

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
    Warp Disruptor II

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    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
    Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

    Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

    Uses halos and loki booster...idea is it picks off frigs/small targets at range. Use MWD to get up to speed/for emergency manuevers, and use 100mn AB just to coast with ur relatively tiny sig(62.2 w/ strong x-instinct).

    Not much should be able to hit you, and missiles will do fuck all damage. Frigs can't scram you, so should be p. solid. Just don't get caught close as you'll fold fast if anything DOES manage to start hitting you.

    I am slightly tempted to try this...only decent use for a halo set Ive found so far is setups like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Get ONI, have small neut and drones?
    Short 21.97% powergrid. It'd still have less EHP, less speed, less gun DPS, and less range.
    But actually has some anti-frig defence, because with the zealot you will get rofl stomped by the first frigate out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Marram View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAfroMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Get ONI, have small neut and drones?
    Short 21.97% powergrid. It'd still have less EHP, less speed, less gun DPS, and less range.
    But actually has some anti-frig defence, because with the zealot you will get rofl stomped by the first frigate out there.
    If I wanted to fly a super-safe, almost-no-weakness ship solo I'd fly a Cynabal. The Zealot isn't perfect, but it far overshadows the NOmen for this use.
    Actually an '06.

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    Will have to make a post once I die, but I'm currently in a Zealot
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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Will have to make a post once I die, but I'm currently in a Zealot
    watching this thread

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    Alas, I died in the slowest way possible (Huginn/Curse).
    NOmen is better by mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Alas, I died in the slowest way possible (Huginn/Curse).
    NOmen is better by mile.
    a. What fit did you use
    b. What fit would you use on a NOmen
    c. What makes you think ANY ship would survive that combination? Hell, if anything my Zealot fit would stand an alright chance because you have an injector + 30.4+3.75km range, which is right at the edge of a standard lvl 5 Curse neut range and enough buffer to last a while.
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    http://prometheus.killmail.org/?a=ki...ll_id=12682718

    And yes, slowest death but instantly rendered harmless I bet.

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    That is indeed the fit but upon further investigation, I find that running a 1600 plate and mixing guns ends up being better (technically), albeit less agile (6.9 or something compared to 6.2s align)
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    Why do I get the feeling if I flew that and died, people are going to laugh at me for breaking "basic fitting rules"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_getter View Post
    Why do I get the feeling if I flew that and died, people are going to laugh at me for breaking "basic fitting rules"?
    Guaranteed. Was already chewed out about not being shield fit.
    The way I see it, I'm still slow no matter what I do. The fast shit will still get under guns and you're fucked either way.
    I'd rather have a web *just in case*, and 2x-3x the hitpoints, while still being fairly agile.

    You biggest weaknesses are Capacitor, Speed, & Tracking. In that order.
    As long as you have the first, you have means of mitigating damage, combating the tracking issues, and maintaining speed.
    Lose that (and you will), and you've lost all 3.

    Couldn't care less about how people feel about my fits. The ship is terrible no matter how you look at it.
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    Not every ship can do every role (e.g. solo brawling) equally well, even if they're in the HAC class/line.
    Keep trying though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Not every ship can do every role (e.g. solo brawling) equally well, even if they're in the HAC class/line.
    Keep trying though.
    This is why the Zealot is shit..
    Harb/NOmen does brawling better, Oracle does *sniping* better.

    All of which are cheaper than the Zealot.
    Zealot - ~120m
    Oracle - ~50m or something
    NOmen - ~45m
    Harb - ~20m or something
    After insurance, not including fittings.

    The only medium-class laser ship that's worse, is the Phantasm (which I am currently flying to test the validity of my claim).
    Last edited by prometheus; March 10 2012 at 07:05:54 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    The way I see it, I'm still slow no matter what I do. The fast shit will still get under guns and you're fucked either way.
    My thoughts exactly when I came up with my fit, play to the strengths, don't cater to the weaknesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Not every ship can do every role (e.g. solo brawling) equally well, even if they're in the HAC class/line.
    Keep trying though.
    Someone has to do it. Props to prometheus for testing in real situations and not silly pre-arranged SiSi fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahdi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Not every ship can do every role (e.g. solo brawling) equally well, even if they're in the HAC class/line.
    Keep trying though.
    Someone has to do it. Props to prometheus for testing in real situations and not silly pre-arranged SiSi fights.
    And like I hinted at earlier, I'm not out to make every solo fit into a perfectly safe, disengage-able, roam-with-no-weakness ship. That's a Vagabond/Cynabal, and I've done that a lot. Just because a ship isn't a Vagabond/Cynabal doesn't mean it can't be a fun and good solo ship.
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    I may have sold the Phantasm a little bit short, it's not as terrible as expected.
    I mean, it's not quite Cynabal/Vigilant levels of Faction, but it's certainly better than a Zealot for brawling :3
    Medium nos + tracking is so key.
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    Cap inject it already and deal with needing 800s if you live past 1 fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    Cap inject it already and deal with needing 800s if you live past 1 fight.
    He already explained why he chose a web over an injector. Keep up.

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