hate these ads?, log in or register to hide them
Page 58 of 66 FirstFirst ... 84855565758596061 ... LastLast
Results 1,141 to 1,160 of 1312

Thread: Oculus/Facebook merger

  1. #1141

    Join Date
    April 9, 2012
    Location
    Pit of depravity
    Posts
    6,441
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    No guys it'll be as popular as the mobile phone...
    Maybe AR one day. I could potentially see that happening (but not until its a lot better than it currently is).

  2. #1142

    Join Date
    April 9, 2011
    Location
    2006
    Posts
    4,447
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    No guys it'll be as popular as the mobile phone...
    It was a dumb comparison. VR is an alternate interface, not a new tool in and of itself.

    Hence me talking about mobile phone peripherals, rather than the phones themselves. In the long run I see it having a similar appeal/distribution as smart watches, once the tech is sufficiently minimised for people to always have it on without noticing.

    I do love my smartwatch as it does make a number of things I do with my phone far more convenient and it will certainly continue to be developed and improved as a technology (I'm going to be upgrading shortly to do smart-payments through it), but I don't see it as a piece of core tech that everyone in the world is going to need.

  3. #1143
    Corwyna's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 10, 2011
    Location
    Croatistan
    Posts
    3,230
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholai Pestot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    No guys it'll be as popular as the mobile phone...
    It was a dumb comparison. VR is an alternate interface, not a new tool in and of itself.

    Hence me talking about mobile phone peripherals, rather than the phones themselves. In the long run I see it having a similar appeal/distribution as smart watches, once the tech is sufficiently minimised for people to always have it on without noticing.

    I do love my smartwatch as it does make a number of things I do with my phone far more convenient and it will certainly continue to be developed and improved as a technology (I'm going to be upgrading shortly to do smart-payments through it), but I don't see it as a piece of core tech that everyone in the world is going to need.
    Don't sell yourself short, it wasn't a dumb comparison, Smuggo is being shortsighted.
    VR could be to monitors what smartphone is to feature phones, complete replacement. Don't get locked in to current implementation. Just because stuff is bulky and requires cables *now* doesn't mean it has to stay that way forever. Imagine if it would fit into something like close fit sunglasses and could mix input from forward facing camera(s) for augmented reality. It sure as hell does not sound impossible to me. The 3 mainstream devices that we have so far have significant improvements over each other, next generation will probably keep all of the good stuff and add their own. SteamVR already announced getting rid of the tether and at minimum the displays will improve.

    Yes, for now it will be niche and sim people will benefit the most, but why wouldn't you play something like Civilization with it, if you could scroll the map by pulling around and whatnot?

    Just think of all the other tech, from mobile phones, heck fucking TVs, computers, electric cars... All of them when they showed up were not for mass market, but they evolved. How did it go, there is no market for more than 5 computers?
    Hiro Cor

  4. #1144
    Smuggo
    Guest

  5. #1145
    Lana Torrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 13, 2011
    Location
    Bonding around
    Posts
    17,948
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    ??

    The difference is, if you said to someone in say the mid 1990s, "would you like to be able to call anyone from anywhere and also have a small PC with internet in your pocket" virtually everyone would say "yeah if it worked"

    IF you ask them "would you like to play computer games by be fully immersed in it with full 360 motion" most probably would go... meh.

    VR has been done before, it failed then, dunno why you think it will now become as popular as the mobile phone (lol). It suffers the same problem that 3D has suffered its many incarnations as well, that you need some additonal object to put on your face to make it work. It lacks that innate accessibility all those other inventions you cite have.
    Actually most people said whats the internet and why would I need it on my brick of a phone, I can't see the point it making it even bigger and draining the battery faster..

    Several things needed to get a lot better before phones were 'good'. His point is the VR of the future won't look anything like what we have now. It'll be small, work very well and won't be tethered by cables.. It will let you experience another world like you can only imagine now.. Maybe it will be something you at work so you can interact and communicate with your team from all over the world.. Who knows..
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

  6. #1146
    Keckers's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 31, 2012
    Posts
    14,247
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Actually most people said whats the internet and why would I need it on my brick of a phone, I can't see the point it making it even bigger and draining the battery faster..

    Several things needed to get a lot better before phones were 'good'. His point is the VR of the future won't look anything like what we have now. It'll be small, work very well and won't be tethered by cables.. It will let you experience another world like you can only imagine now.. Maybe it will be something you at work so you can interact and communicate with your team from all over the world.. Who knows..
    Sounds hellish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

  7. #1147
    Lana Torrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 13, 2011
    Location
    Bonding around
    Posts
    17,948
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    Actually most people said whats the internet and why would I need it on my brick of a phone, I can't see the point it making it even bigger and draining the battery faster..

    Several things needed to get a lot better before phones were 'good'. His point is the VR of the future won't look anything like what we have now. It'll be small, work very well and won't be tethered by cables.. It will let you experience another world like you can only imagine now.. Maybe it will be something you at work so you can interact and communicate with your team from all over the world.. Who knows..
    Sounds hellish.
    I dunno.. Yelling at the stupid Indian techs never gets old.. Turning myself is to a 50ft devil and throwing virtual lava at them would be worth it
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

  8. #1148
    Smuggo
    Guest
    Yeah or I could just phone them...

  9. #1149
    King of the Babe Thread Donor Jolin's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 9, 2011
    Location
    Navi Mumbai
    Posts
    5,326
    That's too inconvenient and new-fangled. Telegraph them instead.

  10. #1150
    Lana Torrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 13, 2011
    Location
    Bonding around
    Posts
    17,948
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    Yeah or I could just phone them...
    You've not taken your meds today have you.. You know we can tell right? You start to get all irrational and trolly..

    Friends dont let friends be shitters.. Take your meds.
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

  11. #1151
    Lana Torrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 13, 2011
    Location
    Bonding around
    Posts
    17,948
    So as smuggo as smuggo has been today.. I agree with the spirit of what hes been saying.. Smartphones took off in the public eye because they offered something useful (and as someone that spent more than half their life without one, utterly fucking amazing). VR has no 'killer app' at the moment.. The mobile phone always had a killer app idea, it just needed to be developed.. There isnt really a nuggit of a killer app in VR.. Its 'just VR'..

    Its a bit like smart watches.. I love mine for being a notification service for my phone, but they arent popular because there is no killer app (or even an idea on what that killer app might be). That was why they were all pushing to fitness tracking, because it was literally the only idea anyone could come up with that might have worked.. But that fad is dieing now.
    Quote Originally Posted by lubica
    And her name was Limul Azgoden, a lowly peasant girl.

  12. #1152

    Join Date
    April 9, 2011
    Location
    2006
    Posts
    4,447
    Quote Originally Posted by Lana Torrin View Post
    So as smuggo as smuggo has been today.. I agree with the spirit of what hes been saying.. Smartphones took off in the public eye because they offered something useful (and as someone that spent more than half their life without one, utterly fucking amazing). VR has no 'killer app' at the moment.. The mobile phone always had a killer app idea, it just needed to be developed.. There isnt really a nuggit of a killer app in VR.. Its 'just VR'..

    Its a bit like smart watches.. I love mine for being a notification service for my phone, but they arent popular because there is no killer app (or even an idea on what that killer app might be). That was why they were all pushing to fitness tracking, because it was literally the only idea anyone could come up with that might have worked.. But that fad is dieing now.
    For smart watches?

    It's going to be a more effective implementations of what was tried with biometrics. Some of my colleagues already pay for shit by just swiping their wrist across it. Their smartwatch is configured for payment via their phone.

    This type of identity sign-in isn't just limited to payments and it doesn't have the limitations of biometric scanners that ended up making them mostly impractical for day-to-day use. It's also quite difficult to steal, as you need both the phone and the watch and most newer watches auto-lock themselves as soon as they stop detecting your pulse.

    Universal-single-sign-in is going to be the smartwatch killer app.

    My current smartwatch doesn't contain the tech needed to do this

  13. #1153
    Movember '12 Best Facial Hair Movember 2012Donor Lallante's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 13, 2011
    Posts
    17,471
    "VR is failing" is a bullshit made up narrative backed by zero hard evidence or numbers. We are exactly where VR companies 3-4 years predicted we would be at this point, if not better (PS VR mass adoption and low price was not predicted). Lets see what Gen2 brings before drawing any conclusions.

    I mean most of you are saying "VR has failed because it doesnt appeal to me personally in its current incarnation". How is that evidence of anything? And if this is failure what would success have looked like? No-one was predicting even this level of uptake, let alone greater.

  14. #1154
    Smuggo
    Guest
    I'm not sure anyone is rly saying that are they?

  15. #1155
    Keckers's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 31, 2012
    Posts
    14,247
    If they can make a smart watch that looks nothing like a smart watch maybe they'll catch on.

    They're they wrist-bound equivalent of belt pouches for phones.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

  16. #1156
    Keckers's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 31, 2012
    Posts
    14,247
    How long did it take lallante to say star citizen was failing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Mason
    It is absurd that we are capable of witnessing a 40,000 year old system of gender oppression begin to dissolve before our eyes yet still see the abolition of a 200 year old economic system as an unrealistic utopia.

  17. #1157
    Smuggo
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Keckers View Post
    If they can make a smart watch that looks nothing like a smart watch maybe they'll catch on.

    They're they wrist-bound equivalent of belt pouches for phones.
    Yeah they are ugly as fuck and also i can just get my phone out so seem pointless.

    Plus one day I would like to buy a really nice proper watch and I don't wanna wear two watches.

  18. #1158
    Steph's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 10, 2011
    Location
    Canadia
    Posts
    9,249
    Quote Originally Posted by Smuggo View Post
    I'm not sure anyone is rly saying that are they?
    Lal often likes to address the arguments of people who aren't actually participating in the discussion.

    I think there's a word or a phrase for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by QuackBot View Post
    Canadians are usually cooler.
    Thermonuclear Banana Split - A not-really-weekly Eclipse Phase campaign journal

  19. #1159
    Donor erichkknaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 10, 2011
    Posts
    8,978
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    "VR is failing" is a bullshit made up narrative backed by zero hard evidence or numbers. We are exactly where VR companies 3-4 years predicted we would be at this point, if not better (PS VR mass adoption and low price was not predicted). Lets see what Gen2 brings before drawing any conclusions.

    I mean most of you are saying "VR has failed because it doesnt appeal to me personally in its current incarnation". How is that evidence of anything? And if this is failure what would success have looked like? No-one was predicting even this level of uptake, let alone greater.
    To be clear, I don't think VR is failing, just that it will never be more than a toy for enthusiasts while it requires peripherals and geekyness to set up.

    It certainly won't become "everyone on the bus facebooking in VR" like ever.

  20. #1160

    Join Date
    April 9, 2012
    Location
    Pit of depravity
    Posts
    6,441
    Quote Originally Posted by erichkknaar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lallante View Post
    "VR is failing" is a bullshit made up narrative backed by zero hard evidence or numbers. We are exactly where VR companies 3-4 years predicted we would be at this point, if not better (PS VR mass adoption and low price was not predicted). Lets see what Gen2 brings before drawing any conclusions.

    I mean most of you are saying "VR has failed because it doesnt appeal to me personally in its current incarnation". How is that evidence of anything? And if this is failure what would success have looked like? No-one was predicting even this level of uptake, let alone greater.
    To be clear, I don't think VR is failing, just that it will never be more than a toy for enthusiasts while it requires peripherals and geekyness to set up.

    It certainly won't become "everyone on the bus facebooking in VR" like ever.
    Sadly, this. And i say that as a hardcore VR fan, who loves his setup. it's just not an "average person" day to day kind of thing.

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •