[PVP] Armageddon

[Calgus]

lolsec geddon I used a while back on an alt, liable to be blobbed nowadays but I quite liked it
Been meaning of trying it out as a heavy hitter in low sec bc armour gangs with some solid dps plus the heavy neuts but have been using the pest mostly due to its ability to keep up reasonably well in shield bc gangs

[Armageddon, gankageddon]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5

[Podcat]

Calgus, that top fit you linked is pretty awful why would you drop a gun for another neut in gang??

RR gang fit, might be a bit too cap heavy for most ppl but dps is vn1:

[Armageddon, RR gankageddon copy 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
ECCM - Radar II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5




cheap and fun for 0.0 and lowsec: This is good but requires CPU hardwiring with lvl 5 skills according to EFT recommend use of Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array which won't require CPU hardwiring


[Armageddon, GHETTO GEDDON]
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Energy Burst Aerator I
Large Energy Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]


Ogre II x5

971 dps, 93k ehp

[Calgus]

top fit was for solo two to three years ago when minmatar and drakes weren't very common in low sec.

Also I've got a massive hard on for dual heavy neuts and the extra neut might be of more help in a two to four man gang in terms of utility, shutting down active tanking/gtfo factor. The large rr would be somewhat diminished in its role as a heavy support in a gang compromising of 2 canes and maybe a ruppy. The personal repper also doesn't appeal to me much as I'm unlikely to get primaried till last. The loss of a gun isn't too bad in terms of dps, I won't have eft in front of me till the weekend but if i remember right it just scrapes in under a k

[whispous]

If you want dual heavy neuts fly a domi or a tempest

EDIT: and no, losing the seventh gun IS a big deal. You don't get 1k dps from SIX Dual Heavy (lol) pulse lazors.

[Helen]

If you want dual heavy neuts fly a domi or a tempest

EDIT: and no, losing the seventh gun IS a big deal. You don't get 1k dps from SIX Dual Heavy (lol) pulse lazors.

Well its 950 dps with 6 guns and 5 ogres T2, still the point is valid.

Given the amount of ships that will fuck your cap though I wouldn't go with a dual neut setup on a cap hungry ship to start with.

[Calgus]

Domi uses drones which are ineffective in low sec on gates and while tempest is what I've been using till now ive been wanting to try out something armour bricked for nostalgia at the least. Give it a go, I enjoyed it a lot in 08 lowsec, it will grow on you. I will give it a go in may in small gangs n see how I goes. The utility of 2 heavy neuts I can't resist

[Podcat]

also about primary, you are definitely primary right after any tempests or maybe phoons (and if you fleet with pests you will have plenty of neuts anyway, same with phoons) because geddons are some of the weakenst EHP vs really high dps boats around.

[Calgus]

as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the geddon will be used together with a couple of canes n maybe a ruppy in low sec so unlikely ill get primaried. Considering its mostly bcs n the occassional t3 that will be fought the 2 neuts would be rather usefull, personally I like the idea of 2 heavy neuts on my side than an extra gun but I do have a mad hardon fir dual neuts

[Helen]

as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the geddon will be used together with a couple of canes n maybe a ruppy in low sec so unlikely ill get primaried. Considering its mostly bcs n the occassional t3 that will be fought the 2 neuts would be rather usefull, personally I like the idea of 2 heavy neuts on my side than an extra gun but I do have a mad hardon fir dual neuts

[Kyle Semones]

[Armageddon, PROJ BHAAL]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5

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#'s(LVL Vs)
-728dps (vs 743 w/ named dual heavy lasers)
-104,220 ehp
-100% cap w/ boosters no mwd. 2 minutes+ with mwd
-792m/s (its a pig..)

Yes proj on laser ship, I'm theory crafting here, since I dont have t2 L lasers yet.

previously I had 3x plates with dual650s for armament. to get the 800s on, I had to drop a plate to get the cpu, so I just replaced that slot with adaptive plate, went from 109k ehp to 104k. but jumped the dps up to 728 from 709 . also sacrifices some tracking.. so i might switch back to the 650s


flame it

[Pacefalm]

If you want a fit without t2 lasers,

[Armageddon, le t1 lasorz]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
[empty high slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5

1094 dps w/ drones
1211 heat
115k ehp
Cap with all running lasts ~6 mins without OL the injector, 50 mins w/ overload, easily stable without MWD.
If you want a ship that can neut as well as dps just get a tempest, your t2 projectiles are also more effective there.

[Kyle Semones]

Yea I agree there's much better fits and other ships that can do this, but the geddon is just sooooo sexy to me.

[teds]

don't mega mods cost an asston? it's a bit of a nonfactor i suppose with 3xtris but still

[Dwergi]

Nah, almost all of the meta guns are down to 1-1.5 mil per gun with very few exceptions (Arbalest HML's, rails, 1400's).

[Mahdi]

Surprised I haven't seen this variation of the standard dual 1600 fit:

[Armageddon, Standard]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Quad LiF Fueled Booster Rockets
Fleeting Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Berserker II x5


1063 DPS
100k EHP

Some people don't like splitting guns but it's all about the deeps and still a good buffer. Similiar to the RR fit that was posted by podcat.

[Sponk]

[Armageddon, PROJ BHAAL]

Insufficiently Bhaal.

This fit caps out battleships in 20.4 seconds (with overheated neuts)

Also, it is very cheap. Obv not for solo work though.

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[Armageddon, problem?]

500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
500W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
100MN MicroWarpdrive II

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
N-Type Thermic Hardener I
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I


Ogre II x5

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120k ehp
resists 66% / 77% / 76% / 75%
315dps (all drones)
884 m/s
Cap lasts 60 seconds with everything on; close to cap stable with neuts only (until you run out of boosters). Can swap an egress port with a trimark quite easily.

[Gix Tyrionn]

also about primary, you are definitely primary right after any tempests or maybe phoons (and if you fleet with pests you will have plenty of neuts anyway, same with phoons) because geddons are some of the weakenst EHP vs really high dps boats around.

I've always wondered why we don't see more group fittings based on whats going to be an obvious primary. Even if its going to change as people become aware.

Of course this fit comes up lacking a bit compared to an aba but its less intimidating, isn't expected to be as good under reps etc.

1k dps w/ INMF+berserker's, 1.2kdps with heat + conflag loaded.
Resists avg around 70 pre heat with explo being lowest @ 69.4%,
103kehp

[Armageddon, I know I'm primary]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Reflective Plating II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Sensor Booster II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
[empty high slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Berserker II x5

Choose your pimp, its 2% cpu over. downgrade a single gun, or swap one of the hardeners for faction, explo being the obvious choice.

[OrangeAfroMan]

For all passive:

[Armageddon, Armageddon - Pirate Geddon]

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Faint Warp Disruptor I

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Berserker II x5

What I used to run:

[Armageddon, Armageddon - Solo]

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Faint Warp Disruptor I

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Large Armor Repairer II

Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Berserker II x5

Very similar, obviously

[Stormscion]

lolsec geddon I used a while back on an alt, liable to be blobbed nowadays but I quite liked it
Been meaning of trying it out as a heavy hitter in low sec bc armour gangs with some solid dps plus the heavy neuts but have been using the pest mostly due to its ability to keep up reasonably well in shield bc gangs

[Armageddon, gankageddon]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Ogre II x5

If you are going with small guns you can add weapon rigs then for extra damage since you have tons of spare power grid ... why do that since obviously trimarks are better ?
Because then it is considerably less expansive

[LordsServant]

[Armageddon, I'm feeling PRETTY FUCKING MANLY]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating

Faint Warp Disruptor I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Garde II x5

1558 deeps.

57k ehp (fucking terrible I know)

Idea is "oh hey look at that-OMFG IM IN HALF ARMOR ALREADY OH JEEZUS /o\"