[PVP] Tempest

[Qall]

Dual LAR viable at all?


[Tempest, Dual LAR]
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Heavy F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 800
Warp Scrambler II

Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Dual 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I


Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

Tanks 633 DPS with my skills (no pill/link shenanigans), deals 536 (that's with ECM drones), two heavy neuts.

Are the guns terrible enough to warrant dropping the neuts for something else and putting bigger ones on? Planning to solo (proper) with this, so flexibility of the neuts appeals.

[Daneel Trevize]

Consider a smart bomb, and/or dropping the scram for a medium cap booster like some 2xLAR Phoons, or just use & lose several myrms?

[RoemySchneider]

and now; from our popular installment "light neutrons on everything":

[Tempest, New Setup 4]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

100MN Afterburner II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Auxiliary Thrusters I
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I
Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

plus whatever 75m³ drone mix you prefer vOv

the following depicts
red = the above (incl. 210 drone-dps) vs...
blue = 800mm AC armor Tempest (340m sig) w/ 2x enhancers and 210 drone dps as well
green = same as the blue Tempest but without its drones which the light neutrons ate for breakfast



now... that graph is based on a meager 50m/s transversal.
the boat itself can AB around at ~450m/s prior to imps which is still ~180m/s under the influence of one web and ~85m/s when there's two.

obv, this only works in a 1v1 situation [as with all sig-tanking concepts, really...]

it can even work against medium ships (and weapons) but you'll have to be (well) within a ~100m orbit due to your bs signature AND you'll still need that 50m/s transversal over your opponent 8[
hence, i'm not going to spam that graph

commence trolling... now

[Daneel Trevize]

Only works in a 1v1 where you can neut their weapons off and they don't have a cap injector/nos. Also you can't run your repper much at all and (probably, cba to even load it in EFT) have no decent EHP.
Seems to be a point-blank BC with long ranged neuts.

[Naoru]

FHC seems to have more EFT warriors than Battleclinic these days.

[RoemySchneider]

Only works in a 1v1 where you can neut their weapons off and they don't have a cap injector/nos. Also you can't run your repper much at all and (probably, cba to even load it in EFT) have no decent EHP.
Seems to be a point-blank BC with long ranged neuts.

it doesn't need to 'neut their weapons off' and it doesnt need to run the repper (for long - just to rep the losses from the approach)... that's the whole point.
60k ehp, leaves you about a minute to get into orbit of a 1k dps bugger, plus whatever the repper manages to fix during that time.

and it actually works

[kyrieee]

Post some killmails then

[CastleBravo]

A successful solo pvp fit is designed for 1vX not 1v1. That fit would die to a single BC fit with a nos or two BCs without nos. Medium blasters would be better, but it would still be a horrible idea.

[n0th]

Fit lacks Expanded Probe Launcher I

[Mfume]

A successful solo pvp fit is designed for 1vX not 1v1. That fit would die to a single BC fit with a nos or two BCs without nos.

im not defending his fit, but nos-fit BCs are rare as hen's teeth.

[OrangeAfroMan]

[Tempest, Tempest - XLASB]

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Internal Force Field Array I
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Faint Warp Disruptor I

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I


Hammerhead II x5

890 | 1000 DPS w/ RF EMP @ 3.45+31.2km
56.2k EHP
784 | 1014 DPS tanked
1263 | 1806
8.43s align

I think the Cyclone is obsoleted by this.

[Sponk]

How's it look with two boosters?

Blah blah tapatalk

[OrangeAfroMan]

Probably not worth it since it shouldn't be sitting still. The Tempest does have almost the same sig/speed/agility as Battlecruisers - if you don't use that, just use a Maelstrom

[Spartan Dax]

You'll need a cap booster though. Like you said, you shouldn't be sitting still and that MWD rapes the cap and then there's the neuts on top.

[Warmenhoven]

You'll need a cap booster though. Like you said, you shouldn't be sitting still and that MWD rapes the cap and then there's the neuts on top.

This, I wouldn't be happy running two neuts and a MWD off of just my normal cap reserve.

[Daneel Trevize]

Quite a snug fit:
[Tempest, Shield nano? ASB]

Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dread Guristas Warp Disruptor

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator I


Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5

Cheap T2 burst rig would give you another 40dps before heat or implants.

[indeterminacy]

You'll need a cap booster though.

Standard buffered nano-pest has one. You'll need it too.

[LordsServant]

[Tempest, Tempest - XLASB]

some fit

I think the Cyclone is obsoleted by this.

My cyclone would tank this all day, and/or kill it assuming I can keep scram.

That said, it's a very pretty upgrade for a nanoing pest. However, I'd suggest boost amps over invulns as ur cap is terribru and they work better with XLASBs in FULLTANKMODE assuming ur scrammed and in danger. (at least go 1/1 if you need the extra ehp for w/e reason...)

[Tyrus Tenebros]

the best i could do was this:

[Tempest, DualXLASB]
Co-Processor II
'Dyad' Co-Processor I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400

Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Hammerhead II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


It's, well... it's missing something rather obvious. Honour tackle?

[OrangeAfroMan]

I like the invulns because they serve a dual purpose of adding tank as well as adding EHP.

I'll see about working in a cap booster, but it will mean a loss of tank :/

The other issue is you'll be forced to use 400/Navy 400s rather than 800s. Not that its a huge issue but.... replacing a neut with a nos and an invuln with an SBA might be a better solution overall.