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    Re: Vagabond

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacefalm
    Smallest guns and no gyros/TEs means your dps is shit and upgraded onboard scanners mean your probe launcher is not that usefull in most cases where you would have used one, so no.
    because having no targets at all is better than having a limited range of victims...?

    fine but note that you dont get to tackle as much with less agility and scan res -.-

    [Vagabond, New Setup 5]
    Internal Force Field Array I
    Co-Processor II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II

    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Warp Disruptor II

    Expanded Probe Launcher I, Combat Scanner Probe I
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

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    Re: Vagabond

    [Vagabond, too scrubby for AWU V or PG implants]
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Warp Disruptor II

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    Medium Energy Neutralizer II

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II


    Warrior II x5


    Fits with AWU IV + shield upgrades IV without a PG implant, moves and does DPS like the dual poly fit but has 1.1k extra EHP in exchange for 4m more sig. Also, I have never flown it because it's probably not cost-effective compared to a hurricane and I am very bad at nanofagging, so it sort of sits around in my hangar looking at me resentfully.

    Aside: Roemy, do you have some kind of profound religious objection to covops alts or something?

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    Re: Vagabond

    Quote Originally Posted by RoemySchneider
    another installment of our favourite "expanded probe launcher on everything" series:
    Better fit:

    [Vagabond, probe]
    Co-Processor II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
    Fourier Transform I Tracking Program

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Warp Disruptor II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

    Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


    Warrior II x5

    Nothing wrong with this in concept. People see a lone Vaga on scan they think "so what, can't get me here". Also useful if you keep getting people warping to tacs above you.

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    Re: Vagabond

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubutai
    Fits with AWU IV + shield upgrades IV without a PG implant, moves and does DPS like the dual poly fit but has 1.1k extra EHP in exchange for 4m more sig. Also, I have never flown it because it's probably not cost-effective compared to a hurricane and I am very bad at nanofagging, so it sort of sits around in my hangar looking at me resentfully.
    I thought most dual poly fits are with a DC II, so this looses out 5k EHP to those though does get an extra 40 DPS with barrage.

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    Re: Vagabond

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubutai
    Aside: Roemy, do you have some kind of profound religious objection to covops alts or something?
    that's not it - i just hate intel channels with pleas like "uhh we need a prober" when cov ops offer little more than a 50% strength bonus. i always nominate those authors for the "not my job" awards, especially when there's 10+ guys engaged in a smacking contest with a single runner on a safe spot -.-
    consider this to be more of a public service announcement about how (almost) everybody can probe.

    the vaga isnt a "massive" damage dealer in the first place, comes with a utility high-slot and it has a enough standard cpu for only 1 co-proc [if at all]. but unlike covops, it can tackle HACs without dieing in under 30 sec.

    but ye, the scimi can do this more reliably, can possibly still fit 2 transporters and be semi-useful, plus; it looks innocent to boot ^^

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    Re: Vagabond

    Dodgy - fair enough, was thinking of the 3 gyro/2 TE fit poly fit. If you swap one gyro on mine for a DC II, you lose 11 dps versus the 2 gyro/2 TE/poly fit in exchange for 1k EHP in shields + easier fitting, which seems like a reasonable tradeoff.

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    Re: Vagabond

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubutai
    Dodgy - fair enough, was thinking of the 3 gyro/2 TE fit poly fit. If you swap one gyro on mine for a DC II, you lose 11 dps versus the 2 gyro/2 TE/poly fit in exchange for 1k EHP in shields + easier fitting, which seems like a reasonable tradeoff.
    It is novel and have to admit to liking it, though vaga's need to come down in price before I'd try it. Going to feel nervous enough changing my PG4 version to an F-S9 when AWU V finishes next week... though that's mostly superstition since it's also the first Vaga I bought.

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    Re: Vagabond

    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgy Past
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubutai
    Fits with AWU IV + shield upgrades IV without a PG implant, moves and does DPS like the dual poly fit but has 1.1k extra EHP in exchange for 4m more sig. Also, I have never flown it because it's probably not cost-effective compared to a hurricane and I am very bad at nanofagging, so it sort of sits around in my hangar looking at me resentfully.
    I thought most dual poly fits are with a DC II, so this looses out 5k EHP to those though does get an extra 40 DPS with barrage.
    Mine isn't.

    I fly the first fit posted in the thread, and atm I have a PG4 in to upgrade to 2x LSE II / Medium Neut II, but that's coincidental to me also flying a HAMDrake, not specifically for the vagabond.

    Fly it like a man w/ 3x Gyro / 2x TE and kill everything (or run away like a pansy when necessary)
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    Re: Vagabond

    Hi guys first post, hopefully wont be too much of a retarded question BUT:

    In 1vmany situations (read 90% of situations) whats your thoughts on swapping the cloak for a rocket launcher w/ defenders. In most of those situations you can get out of range of the turret ships or reduce their DPS with transversal but the ever present dreak will still be able to hit you out to 70km or so making it hard to stay and play around with teh blob seeing what you can pick off. Defenders should reduce their DPS a tad should it not?

    Also what is the consensus on nano NOmen vs vaga for flying about solo?

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    Re: Vagabond

    I think Phantasms are cheaper and better than Nomens for laser kitey stuffs and defenders are useless.

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    Re: Vagabond

    Defenders are useless, but phantasms are not kiters. They're slow and fat and have awful cap, and horrible space for cap boosters. Best kiting laser ship is the harb followed by legion/zealot (All shield fits)
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    Bit of a mix of lows, don't know if it's agile enough but never flown a vaga so not sure.

    [Vagabond, null solo]
    Damage Control II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Warp Disruptor II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


    Warrior II x5
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    it's a viable fit but... "never flown a vaga so not sure"

    dude

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    I find damage controls to be worthless when flying solo, better off with the 3 gyro and 2 tracking enhancers, or a nano for extra agility. but genrally only use the damage control when your flying with logistics, if at all.

    Also The vagabond has provided me with the best solo fun i've had in eve, awesome ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ry ry View Post
    it's a viable fit but... "never flown a vaga so not sure"

    dude
    Ouch that hurts lol. I'm not really a HAC person, but after getting HAC V and people seem to have alot of vaga fun I'll defo give it a spin.

    Will try without DCU first and see where it gets me, cheers chaps.
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    If you get caught you die regardless of wether you have DCU or not :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zavior View Post
    If you get caught you die regardless of wether you have DCU or not :\
    THIS.

    hence my earlier position on just going all-out "kill them or you die regardless"

    even vaga vs. vaga, I find that vagabonds that roll DCs tend to load shortrange and attempt to close for a kill. I load barrage and use my additional dps/range to apply more dps at longer ranges and generally do pretty well.*

    *Other than those times when I've been overheating and fail to notice that one of my LSEs burnt out. WELP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zavior View Post
    If you get caught you die regardless of wether you have DCU or not :\
    QFT. Plus when you are putting nanos AND a DCU on something you know there's been a lapse of judgement somewhere. I have to admit that this was a really hard habit to break with Vagabonds coming from a gallente background.

    The point is NOT GETTING CAUGHT. Which is why my rigs are usually polycarbs and the lows are the standard 3gyro 2TE or drop a gyro/TE for a nano to go even more balls out for speed.


    Edit: Actually I'm gonna change my stance here. More tank isn't a bad thing. I mean that's why you run 2 LSEs in the first place. The problem is that the DCU doesn't really add that much tank.

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    It's really all down to personal choice. I like to run a DC II and one polycarb, with a CDFE. With my implants, it makes me as fast or faster than most other Vagas out there.

    1v1 against an enemy Vaga I'll keep Barrage loaded, overheat everything and just approach. Switching to close range doesn't really make a huge difference, because you lose DPS while you're reloading or on the approach. By the time you get to zero, the fight's usually already decided.

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    [Vagabond, old skool nano]
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Gyrostabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Warp Disruptor II

    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
    [empty high slot]

    Medium Ancillary Current Router I
    Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II

    With LG snakes + 5 link drake booster

    Speed - 4280 m/s - 4.6s Align Time
    DPS - who the fuck cares im doing 4k BUT....341 w/barrage - no drones
    EHP - 29,697 (shield harmonizing link)

    Overloads to 6150 m/s

    Considering you CRUISE at faster than the overload speed of a non-nanofibered cynabal (assuming no snakes or links) this can make for some serious *smug* when that cynabal overloads and finds you STILL running circles around him

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