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    [PVP] Brutix

    Yeah, I'm spamming gallente fits... just wanna get my favourite section of SHC (FHP?) off to a start.

    Shield gank brutix
    [Brutix, shield]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Damage Control II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Warp Scrambler II
    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I


    Hammerhead II x5
    The single ion irks me, but i think it's the best choice rather than fit a PDS or something YMMV. It's never gonna be king of the shield BCs but it's a fun small gang ship, it's EHP isn't terrible (better than dual nano hurricane) and it's dps is great. extra fun with loki bonuses, but then what isn't? Will leave an armour fit to someone else, as i don't really fly armour much.
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    Re: Brutix

    [Brutix, armor]
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Damage Control II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Warp Scrambler II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Nanobot Accelerator I


    Hammerhead II x5

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    Re: Brutix

    Oldschool 800 plate brutix with a T2 weapon rig twist for MAX DPS. (and/or drop a Magstab for an EANM if you expect to try to live in a fight / logi back up)

    The brutix in general is the most effective vagabond killer in the game if you're any good at all.

    [Brutix, Oldschool]
    800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Damage Control II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Stasis Webifier II
    Stasis Webifier II

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


    Vespa II x5


    1031 DPS overheat + implants. Dual webs. 41k EHP so you have a shot at living vs. 2 targets.

    or

    [Brutix, NanoKiller]
    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Reactor Control Unit II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Warp Scrambler II

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


    Hammerhead II x5

    ALSO 1031 max dps by coincidence.
    44k EHP
    Cheaper due to the lack of the T2 rig, obviously.

    The tank is laughable, but the only point of this fit is to be pulled out when a vagabond/cynabal is nearby and acting cocky to take it out before backup arrives and run. or trade ships
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    Re: Brutix

    I fail to see how a decent Vaga/Cynabal pilot would die to a blaster Brutix, unless they are an idiot but in that case they would die to any Brutix tbh.

    I like the fits though

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    Re: Brutix

    hint: There are no decent vaga/cynabal pilots.
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    Im serious.
    That's the sad part.

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    Re: Brutix

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiodome
    Yeah, I'm spamming gallente fits... just wanna get my favourite section of SHC (FHP?) off to a start.

    Shield gank brutix
    [Brutix, shield]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Damage Control II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Warp Scrambler II
    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Ancillary Current Router I


    Hammerhead II x5
    The single ion irks me, but i think it's the best choice rather than fit a PDS or something YMMV. It's never gonna be king of the shield BCs but it's a fun small gang ship, it's EHP isn't terrible (better than dual nano hurricane) and it's dps is great. extra fun with loki bonuses, but then what isn't? Will leave an armour fit to someone else, as i don't really fly armour much.
    2 LSE > 1 invul and LSE

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    Re: Brutix

    i was gonna say no, but after downgrading all the guns to ions, replacing the ACR with a t2 damage rig (which i have cheap courtesy of corpmate, <3 tsubutai) i think i prefer it.

    [Brutix, shield]
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Tracking Enhancer II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Damage Control II

    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Warp Scrambler II
    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
    Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II


    Hammerhead II x5

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    Re: Brutix

    I would take the invuln setup only if I had basi support.

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    Re: Brutix

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudden
    I fail to see how a decent Vaga/Cynabal pilot would die to a blaster Brutix, unless they are an idiot but in that case they would die to any Brutix tbh.

    I like the fits though
    Lots of reasons. The "there are no decent vaga pilots" bit is a good start, but if the BRUTIX pilot is good, you can quite easily lure a vagabond in to kill range.

    Because of the EHP / DPS differential you can take some punishment before getting in range too, but a lot of vagas think they can outrange quickly enough to run.

    Alternatively, you can bring a tackler + brutix, with judicious use of MWD overheat (I laugh at people who can't get in range using blasters, frankly) you can really bring the pain.

    We used 2x Maled + Me in that comedy brutix fitting and killed vaga, cyna, dramiel all in one engagement within a minute or two. It hits on the vagabond's lowest resist (kinetic) so the EHP is bad, and does absurd dps.
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    Re: Brutix

    I still maintain that pilot skill being equal, a brutix will lose everytime to a Vaga. He is faster than you, more agile than you, and has much more range. If he kills your drones and doesn't allow you to break his orbit (which he won't if he's not a bad), you are dead in the water and will die a slow death while he wittles you down from the edge of point range.

    Now throw a end or multiple ships and warp scrams/neuts in the equation and I'm wondering why you look down upon blaster pilots not killing their intended targets.

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    Re: Brutix

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudden
    I still maintain that pilot skill being equal, a brutix will lose everytime to a Vaga. He is faster than you, more agile than you, and has much more range. If he kills your drones and doesn't allow you to break his orbit (which he won't if he's not a bad), you are dead in the water and will die a slow death while he wittles you down from the edge of point range.

    Now throw a end or multiple ships and warp scrams/neuts in the equation and I'm wondering why you look down upon blaster pilots not killing their intended targets.
    Even in fleet fights + tackle, I constantly hear people whine about not being able to get in blaster range (as an excuse to use railfits) which is absurd.

    And having killed a few vagabond/cynabals, I assure you most of them are cocky enough to lose their ships to a brutix every once in a while.
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    Re: Brutix

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros
    Quote Originally Posted by Sudden
    I still maintain that pilot skill being equal, a brutix will lose everytime to a Vaga. He is faster than you, more agile than you, and has much more range. If he kills your drones and doesn't allow you to break his orbit (which he won't if he's not a bad), you are dead in the water and will die a slow death while he wittles you down from the edge of point range.

    Now throw a end or multiple ships and warp scrams/neuts in the equation and I'm wondering why you look down upon blaster pilots not killing their intended targets.
    Even in fleet fights + tackle, I constantly hear people whine about not being able to get in blaster range (as an excuse to use railfits) which is absurd.
    I agree with you there, when I've flown Brutix in small gangs I've never had a huge problem getting DPS on target I've just had to work harder at it. Shield Brutix makes this easier. You just have to console yourself that for each engagement you'll be at the top of one killmail and near the bottom of the rest because if your fleet is decent the primary will be near death by the time you get there. Ammo travels faster than Gallente Battlecruisers. Also railfits can diaf.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros
    And having killed a few vagabond/cynabals, I assure you most of them are cocky enough to lose their ships to a brutix every once in a while.
    I read that as "most vaga/cynabal pilots are bad"

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    Re: Brutix

    Well some are bad and some are cocky, there is a difference.

    It's also possible for a good pilot to make a mistake against a good brutix pilot that's warping around / new to system / gets lucky, whatever.

    If a vagabond jumps in to a system with a brutix at zero on gate (15km starting distance, the vagabond *should* never lose, agreed. That's why as the brutix pilot you have to be a bit trickier than that.


    It's a game of cat and mouse, whoever gets the upper hand on preferred engagement range wins. Sometimes that means "luck", sometimes it means the brutix pilot did something tricky, sometimes it means the vaga fucked up.
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    Re: Brutix

    If my Auntie had balls she'd be my Uncle.

    Suicide gank Brutix

    [Brutix, Hurr I gank j0o]
    Gauss Field Balancer I
    Gauss Field Balancer I
    Gauss Field Balancer I
    Gauss Field Balancer I
    Tracking Enhancer I

    Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution
    Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution
    Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution
    Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution

    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Modal Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Hammerhead I x5

    766 dps before overheat, 863 dps with.
    789.3 mm scan res.

    Was pretty cheap last time I used this with the guns offering an ideal damage/isk cost benefit. Pretty much just wait @10km off busy hauler routes and gank anything with shinies.

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    Re: Brutix

    [Brutix, Dual Rep]
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Damage Control II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
    Stasis Webifier II
    Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

    Valkyrie II x5

    A pretty bog standard solo fitting that I occasionally go flying around with standard exile gives you a tank of 533dps (663 overloaded, 444dps while not overloading/exiled)
    498dps dealt, goes 982m/s and can hold 11 cap 800's +1 in injector.

    It's more than capable of killing any BC you come up against solo tho Draeks as usual take a while. Also considering dropping Accellerator rig for anti explosive, due to vaga/hurricane spam.

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    Re: Brutix

    [Brutix, dual rep]
    Damage Control II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II

    Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
    Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
    Warp Scrambler II
    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive

    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
    Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


    Hobgoblin II x5

    Dps 619
    Dps tank 470
    Overheated and improved pill..
    Preffer damage rigs over armor, that way it keeps speed and more dps.
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    Re: Brutix

    Re: Invuln comments

    I used to fly the dual LSE variant. Then "overloading" came out. Run the invuln, if you start taking heat, overload it. If you're neuted, you're equally as fucked as you are with the 2xLSE setup. You basically have 900DPS and a 50k tank no matter which setup you use.

    Looking at the top, I usually drop the nano for another dmg mod, as I rely heavily on fleet bonus and implants for speed and agility.

    LT

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    I'm thinking about this for a bit of solo

    [Brutix, Solo Standard]
    Damage Control II
    800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Medium Armor Repairer II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
    Warp Scrambler II
    Stasis Webifier II

    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Hammerhead II x5

    with all lvl V and no implants (except standard exile) i got
    576/over 640 dps
    266/331 dps tank
    nice buffer but slow as hell like the dual MAR

    or a classic shield gank. Dunno if this can track something after Crucible, but from eft warrioring stats seems p. awesome

    [Brutix, Shield Gank]
    Damage Control II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
    Power Diagnostic System II

    Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
    Large Shield Extender II
    Invulnerability Field II
    Warp Scrambler II

    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
    Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


    Hammerhead II x5

    895/1005 dps with fed. navy antimatter
    49k/51k ehp
    62/63/63/69 with heat 65/66/66/72
    1189m/s with heat 1687m/s

    if you wanna go with x2LSE drop the Power Diagnostic II and put a Reactor control II
    For rigs you can replace 1 of the EM for a Core Ext. I don ' t like to have res holes but you can get 2-3k with LSE over Inv and Core over Anti rigs.

    Vespa or Hams it' s a matter of situation.

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    IMO there is ONE standard non-gank fit, and that is what Sudden posted 2nd in this thread.
    The only difference being that you can upgrade a couple guns to Electrons to Ions and make it a 3/4 split.

    With the new changes in Hybrids it puts down ~700dps and tanks ~400dps (with exile) before heat.
    It's the best balance of tank without sacrificing gank.

    Alternatively, you could do 2x rep rigs & 1 damage with 2x eanm, but it isn't worth it.
    Single rep also isn't worth it as you don't really gain much dps and lose a whole lot of tank.

    Hell, on top of that, may as well fly a Myrm
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    Yup I know for solo Myrm is much better, but Brutix is much more cheap (around 20m) and you will have fights that you usually wil not have in a Myrm, and still have a chance to kill some stuff

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