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    Rumour has it that ... vOv
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    [10:59:16] Ghost Storm: Hi
    [10:59:28] Ghost Storm: WTF why PL have dock right in b-r??
    [10:59:39] numismancer: talk to sort, elo, union and zumzat
    [10:59:50] numismancer: pl wanted a deal to abandon n3
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    Fake?
    Last edited by LeonM; January 30 2014 at 06:21:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeves View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by equak View Post
    Wow. When that much hardware hits the field, you know its on. And that lightshow was awesome.
    Dat focused DD fire at 3:24
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    13 hours and I've only learned one thing: you can't jerk off dead butterflies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonM View Post
    Rumour has it that ... vOv
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    [10:59:16] Ghost Storm: Hi
    [10:59:28] Ghost Storm: WTF why PL have dock right in b-r??
    [10:59:39] numismancer: talk to sort, elo, union and zumzat
    [10:59:50] numismancer: pl wanted a deal to abandon n3
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    Fake?
    probably, Manny outright said in that podcast that their allies and treaties would remain the same. I could see it if goonswarm owned the station since historically PL and Goons get along pretty well despite often being at odds in game, and the goons might let them have their shit to keep the fight going, but Razor has it from what I understand and I don't think they'd be as willing to do something that maverick, in the name of gudfights and or old friends, of which they are not with PL as far as I know.

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    I, for one, hope it's fake. But I've a strong feeling that it's not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonM View Post
    I, for one, hope it's fake. But I've a strong feeling that it's not...
    I don't throw allies under a bus, Vince is something I consider and Efriend, and despite how things go with him and other people we have dealings with, Vince has always been there and always had our back.


    That said, my corp, my fucking corp, took a hit of around 1.5 trillion isk. My alliance as a whole took a shot to the nuts somewhere in the neighborhood of 4.5 trillion isk. Those numbers are beyond staggering in nature and dwarf the amount of money more than half the alliances in EVE will ever see, much less recover from.

    And right now thats what needs to happen.

    I need my people to get a chance to recover.

    I've been in PL for a really long time, and all the welps we've had have been chump change to the actual members in comparison to the losses we're facing here, and coupled with BL knocking on the door in Drones near constantly I made a judgement call to get my people whole.

    I eat a shit sandwich, I pull back, I get my people right, I get my house right, and I get my cap fleet back in order, and then we see where life is and how things are going.



    I don't expect people to like my call, and personally your opinions on my call mean less than fuck all, what matters to me is how my people are doing and dealing with things and how the future of the alliance looks, and the best way for me to do that is to back our shit up to our house and have some Legion on Legion combat up north.

    Anything outside of how the alliance recovers is irrelevant to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

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    Alliance tournament is 6 months away.

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    Meh, I am not judging your motives or decisions at all. Obviously our interests collide, and I'd never think that PL would make decisions based on my whims.
    If anything I can only say I respect your way of both making a tough call and plainly stating it. Маybe the 'plainly stating it' part above all, given the amount of bullshit people are in habit of feeding one another.
    I hope that we'll come up north knocking on your door, but i am not entirely sure that'll happen.
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    Consolidating into a small region to recover makes complete sense but presents a solid target as well. It works on the premise that none of your considerably larger (former) enemies consider you enough of a threat in the long run to try and use this opportunity to really hit it home. That being said, the void you're going through this move should keep the larger players busy long enough for you to recuperate. Also, somehow none of the people that have a big enough super presence to overwhelm you individually seem to hate your guts enough.

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    Maybe telling CFC how to counter N3PL main tactic was a bad idea

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    The only thing that i allow myself to be smug about, is that I've *predicted* this like a couple of months back, way before the NAP with Goons was published. A mighty prediction, I know... But i always admit that i am petty.

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    Man this Keckers dude just has some weird bitter shit poster schtick.


    We must have really fucked you up at some point hombre.
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

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    I'm not bitter at all, I'm just a nobody who shitposts and doesn't really like goons vOv

    read as: I was hoping PL would kick CFC ass and then something something new nullsec landscape
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    So are you telling me that PL is going to quit this war because that would be pretty bad I mean srsly. Years of telling us how much ISK you have and how big your replacement cache is and then you do this.

    Also I wonder if goons still think that slowcats are OP and will try to field them themselves?
    I have incredibly good fits, and am an incredibly good pilot.

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    Apparently some PL members had all their stuff in B-R station or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    . Years of telling us how much ISK you have and how big your replacement cache is and then you do this.
    Whats this got to do with what I said?

    Every cap ship short of the titans lost in that fight will be replaced sometime between now and 10 days from now for the final supercarrier. The Titans will almost entirely be replaced in 6 weeks or so, but thats not what I'm trying to do with this, I'm trying to make sure the dude that graduated Waffles last week who spent all his money on an Archon and fit can get that thing out, or that guy who rides around like an idiot with all his shit, gets that shit out for the next fight we need him in. The replacements capitals and all our money can't really fix that, short of buying everybody all of the stuff in that station, which while we're spending literally 3 trillion isk replacing titans isn't really a thing.

    I mean maybe that number isn't sinking in to you but 3 trillion is a lot of fucking money, and it doesn't leave a lot left in the wallets after that for things like say, replacing all the personal assets of an entire alliance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcanis View Post
    Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.

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    well hey eleven years of 'don't fly anything you can't afford to lose' and this is where it has to hit home, it was bound to happen eventually

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    To the average player, 3 trillion isn't even a lot of money.
    It's transcended money and is simply some abstract form of keeping score.
    Congratulations on the brawl
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    you wanna play hardball eventually one's gonna get knocked out of the park anyways

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    A far greater loss to PL would have been B-R without a fight. I don't think anyone (especially in PL) buys a super carrier and expects to never lose it.

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    Yes 3T is a lot of ISK.

    I hope that RAZOR doesnt give you back your stuff. I mean SOLAR their allies still have stuff trapped in one of your stations
    I have incredibly good fits, and am an incredibly good pilot.

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