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x2Originally Posted by Roam
Wait. What?
I vote we change the thread title to reflect the fact that protoss is for whiners (idra should switch races tbh)
Seriously? 200/200 supply with +1/+1 upgrades and larva stockpiled at the 12 minute mark? As to the "protoss whine trololol", Terran are having an even worse time of it atm and whining twice as hard. Nobody wants to play a macro game against Zerg atm.x2Wait. What?
I vote we change the thread title to reflect the fact that protoss is for whiners (idra should switch races tbh)
My 2 new favorite things in the world: Storm drops and double gas steal in PvP.
Here's an idea, instead of whining about Stephano style 11 minute Roach max, start going for immortal/sentry timings. Those are specifically built around countering that type of thing by raping his third/economy.Seriously? 200/200 supply with +1/+1 upgrades and larva stockpiled at the 12 minute mark? As to the "protoss whine trololol", Terran are having an even worse time of it atm and whining twice as hard. Nobody wants to play a macro game against Zerg atm.x2Wait. What?
I vote we change the thread title to reflect the fact that protoss is for whiners (idra should switch races tbh)
Last edited by Sirrush; July 10 2012 at 12:19:05 AM.
LOL SIGNATURES.
just anything really...
sitting back, waiting for the good ole' deathball and then whining why zerg beats you to the punch is obv not the way.
even making him build more than 4 lings (early on) is better than causing no butterfly effect at all vOv
It's not "sitting back", it's waiting for warpgate to finish, cuz protoss cant do any of pressure of any kind until it's done. And then by the time warpgate is done zerg already has 60 drones and 120 supply. And then gateway units are shit against roaches so you also have to get a few immortals. So by the time you get all of that you're at the 9 minute mark. Finally you have a good unit composition to fight a roach army, but god help you if you miss so much as a single forcefield, cuz then you lose the game fucking instantly.
But then there's the added excitement of not being able to scout the zerg base until you get hallucination, because there's no fucking way to get a probe into a zerg base anymore ever no matter what. So you're already at the 8~ minute mark by the time you get hallucination and actually get to see what the zerg is doing. If it just so happens that he is going for mutas you've pretty much lost the game already because you've already committed to robo tech with tons of sentries. I fucking hate it so much.
afaik in dreamhack summer 2012 MaNa did some really nice roflstomping of the roach max builds. I'm no pro and am not saying its easy but atleast it can be done consistently.
yeah, he did
then everyone were whining on TL how he can only "2 base all in with no macro games"
WhatIt's not "sitting back", it's waiting for warpgate to finish, cuz protoss cant do any of pressure of any kind until it's done. And then by the time warpgate is done zerg already has 60 drones and 120 supply. And then gateway units are shit against roaches so you also have to get a few immortals. So by the time you get all of that you're at the 9 minute mark. Finally you have a good unit composition to fight a roach army, but god help you if you miss so much as a single forcefield, cuz then you lose the game fucking instantly.
But then there's the added excitement of not being able to scout the zerg base until you get hallucination, because there's no fucking way to get a probe into a zerg base anymore ever no matter what. So you're already at the 8~ minute mark by the time you get hallucination and actually get to see what the zerg is doing. If it just so happens that he is going for mutas you've pretty much lost the game already because you've already committed to robo tech with tons of sentries. I fucking hate it so much.
Literally, what
Do you not have a zealot and stalker you can pressure with? Do you not get a fucking robo and fucking observers to scout? AND GOD FORBID YOU NEED PROPER FF CONTROL, GOD FUCKING FORBID YOU CANT JUST 1A ACROSS THE MAP. Guess what the reward for good forcefields is? You win the fucking game, that's what. If, god forbid, you scout a Spire at 9 minutes (at which point Lair is probably finished, but Spire most definitely isn't), there's this magical thing you can build. It's called a Twilight Council. And while he's getting his mutas, you can pressure anyways!
I mean, yeah, if you go for halluc instead of a robo, of course you're going to get raped, of course you're not going to be ready in time for the immortal/sentry push. Here's an idea, don't get halluc!
Stop fucking whining and adapt to the meta, that's what everyone else is doing, why should you be any different
Last edited by Sirrush; July 10 2012 at 07:11:01 PM.
LOL SIGNATURES.
Do you know what stops a Zealot and a Stalker? 4 lings and 1 Queen.WhatIt's not "sitting back", it's waiting for warpgate to finish, cuz protoss cant do any of pressure of any kind until it's done. And then by the time warpgate is done zerg already has 60 drones and 120 supply. And then gateway units are shit against roaches so you also have to get a few immortals. So by the time you get all of that you're at the 9 minute mark. Finally you have a good unit composition to fight a roach army, but god help you if you miss so much as a single forcefield, cuz then you lose the game fucking instantly.
But then there's the added excitement of not being able to scout the zerg base until you get hallucination, because there's no fucking way to get a probe into a zerg base anymore ever no matter what. So you're already at the 8~ minute mark by the time you get hallucination and actually get to see what the zerg is doing. If it just so happens that he is going for mutas you've pretty much lost the game already because you've already committed to robo tech with tons of sentries. I fucking hate it so much.
Literally, what
Do you not have a zealot and stalker you can pressure with? Do you not get a fucking robo and fucking observers to scout? AND GOD FORBID YOU NEED PROPER FF CONTROL, GOD FUCKING FORBID YOU CANT JUST 1A ACROSS THE MAP. Guess what the reward for good forcefields is? You win the fucking game, that's what. If, god forbid, you scout a Spire at 9 minutes (at which point Lair is probably finished, but Spire most definitely isn't), there's this magical thing you can build. It's called a Twilight Council. And while he's getting his mutas, you can pressure anyways!
I mean, yeah, if you go for halluc instead of a robo, of course you're going to get raped, of course you're not going to be ready in time for the immortal/sentry push. Here's an idea, don't get halluc!
Stop fucking whining and adapt to the meta, that's what everyone else is doing, why should you be any different
Guess what happens if you get obs? You only have 1 immortal by the time Roaches hit and you fucking die. And I'm not talking about 1a'ing across the map, I'm talking about consistently throwing down good forcefields, then GOD FORBID missing a single one (or running out of energy, because they don't actually have infinity of it) and losing the game instantly. You say you shouldn't be able to 1a across the map and win, why should roaches be any different? I also find it hilarious that roaches are the only unit in the game that you can build by themselves and have it actually be a viable unit "composition".
Ok so don't engage 4 lings and a queen, engage just 4 lings out on the map, this forces zerg to waste at least another 2-3 larvae on making more lings to be able to take map control.
Also, one immortal and an obs at 11-12 minutes? When do you get your robo? At the 10 minute mark? You can (and should) have 2 immortals at 9 minutes if you're going for the immortal/sentry timing. Admittedly, that build does delay the obs until after those two immortals, but that doesn't mean you need to be blind, if your APM can't keep up you can always throw something into his natural to see what it gets killed by.
LOL SIGNATURES.
So yeah...not in the higher leagues to be having to whine about this stuff but I recently broke into top 8 in my bronze division (yeah i know lolbronze). Hoping to get silver one day soon but its a bitch to get there.
Also don't know if I put this in an earlier post but my username is Melichor (199) NA
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=355738 LOL
tl;dr: 2 units of same type attacking each other at the same time, the older one will always die.
cute ^^
i miss the days when we had such analytic people in eve / here on shc/fhc.
these days it's just about gut arguments and the number of videos you've churned out while filtering the 90% fail ofc - rather than maths, logic and empiric facts
0 people at gsl finals
sc2 is dead
Eh?
14 out of 20 rows are (were? 30minutes ago) empty. I don't think they got more than 1000 people in total (beach plus studio), hell when they showed the audience at the beach I don't think there were more than 300 people
at least I like the games, even if it's pvp
So why are there no people, overpriced tickets, games boring? Armageddon about to occur?
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