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    Ishtar

    [Ishtar, Serpentis/Guristas Plex Runner]
    Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
    Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
    Pithum A-Type Heat Dissipation Amplifier

    Prototype Cloaking Device I
    Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
    Salvager I
    Salvager I
    [empty high slot]

    Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
    Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

    Ogre II x5

    475 dps with 1697 dps tanked against Guristas/Serpentis depending on skills.

    Can swap high slots to suit, easy mode ratting to be honest. CPU is fucking tight, if you feel like investing on this you can get those CN LSE and save enough cpu to bash more decent high slot gear in.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    T2 Sentrys, you know you want to.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    Drone selection/type to suit.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    [Ishtar, Ratting + ACs]

    3x 425mm AutoCannon II (EMP M)
    Prototype Cloaking Device I

    10MN Afterburner II
    2x Cap Recharger II
    2x Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

    Medium Armor Repairer II
    2x Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
    Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
    Capacitor Power Relay II

    2x Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I

    5x Garde II

    635 DPS with max skills and 473 Tank, orbit a sentry for tank.

    I was planning on flying this on my alt in a few weeks. Seems to be popular with a few people in the area I plex. From what I understand, just orbit a sentry. The guns aren't necessary, do whatever you want in the highs, I like the little boost of dps, makes me feel warm inside.

    This guy is cap stable, but I have a modified fit with 3 omnis with a 3.5minute cap if I wanted to micromanage I suppose.

    Ishtar looks fun, can't wait to fly it.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    Not sure what plexs you are running with that but it doesn't tank anywhere near as much as the shield Ishtar fit.
    Granted for plexs that don't require some buffer and don't have web/neut towers this looks like a good fit especially with the addition of a AB to help lower damage taken.

    Been coming up with a few armor fits myself but its the lack of buffer to deal with the harder plexs that concerns me most about its viability.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    [Ishtar, plex 1600mm]
    1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Armor EM Hardener II
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    Damage Control II
    Medium Armor Repairer II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II

    Salvager II
    Salvager II
    Salvager II
    Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser, Civilian Pulse Crystal
    Prototype Cloaking Device I

    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
    Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


    used to run this in catch, it does most lower tire 0.0 plexs with a decent buffer.



    [Ishtar, pve]
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Damage Control II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II

    Prototype Cloaking Device I
    Salvager I
    Salvager I
    Salvager I
    Civilian Gatling Pulse Laser, Civilian Pulse Crystal

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Warden II x5
    Ogre II x5

    i use that in low sec tanks any thing while abing around
    Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank, give a man a bank and he can rob the world.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    imho there's little reason to run an armour ishtar if you aren't going to stuff the mids and/or rigs with sentry mods. shield fit tanks harder for the same outgoing DPS.

    something like;


    [Ishtar, Armour PVE]
    Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer
    Armor Kinetic Hardener II
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    Capacitor Power Relay II
    Capacitor Power Relay II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
    Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
    Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
    Cap Recharger II

    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
    220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
    Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
    Salvager I

    Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
    Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


    Garde II x5
    Warden II x5
    Hobgoblin II x5

    Tanks less but zooming around on the AB shaves off a lot of damage. DPS (gardes) is 538 with a 47km optimal

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    Quote Originally Posted by teds
    imho there's little reason to run an armour ishtar if you aren't going to stuff the mids and/or rigs with sentry mods. shield fit tanks harder for the same outgoing DPS.
    For serp/guristas space sure but shove a shield tanked ishtar in a sansha/blood plex and it will die a bloody death.
    Thing is even armor tanked the buffer on it is shit.
    With my plex running crew I usually roll a munnin for sansha/blood tanking as its fucking superb.

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    Re: Ishtar (Plex Runner)

    Quote Originally Posted by Helen
    Quote Originally Posted by teds
    imho there's little reason to run an armour ishtar if you aren't going to stuff the mids and/or rigs with sentry mods. shield fit tanks harder for the same outgoing DPS.
    For serp/guristas space sure but shove a shield tanked ishtar in a sansha/blood plex and it will die a bloody death.
    Thing is even armor tanked the buffer on it is shit.
    With my plex running crew I usually roll a munnin for sansha/blood tanking as its fucking superb.
    Good point, i've only ever lived in Gurista-land

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    Re: Ishtar

    This will grind Sanctums all day long, lacks in DPS but if you can dual box with a drake you should be laughing.
    This is set up for Guristas, drop a can and orbit at 8km with AB on, your Armor tank bearly ever dips.
    Over 1000 DPS tank permarun.

    [Ishtar, Ishtar]
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    Armor Kinetic Hardener II
    Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

    Large Peroxide I Capacitor Power Cell
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    10MN Afterburner II

    Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
    Small Tractor Beam I
    Prototype Cloaking Device I
    75mm Compressed Coil Gun I, Antimatter Charge S
    [empty high slot]

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


    Hornet II x5
    Vespa II x5
    Wasp I x5
    Wasp II x5

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    Re: Ishtar

    Unless its just a case of skills the shield tank for sanctums is superior and has much better buffer too.
    If I was armor tanking I'd try find a way to squeeze on a Omni or two.

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    Re: Ishtar

    Quote Originally Posted by Helen
    Unless its just a case of skills the shield tank for sanctums is superior and has much better buffer too.
    If I was armor tanking I'd try find a way to squeeze on a Omni or two.
    tbh for sanctums they are both over tanked. Yuo can pretty much get away with just having one rep on the armor tank if you speed tank aswell. The second is for oh shit moments. (Works in some plexes too, plus standard Sig Radius is nice)
    I tried it against angels with Target painters.... Didn't go down too well :/

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    Re: Ishtar

    If there are still any Sansha sanctums/havens in the south, this used to work in Provi. Makes about 12-13M per tick in Sanctums. It's only about a million less in Havens, because the fixed spawn distance suits sentries. A suitable battleship would be better, but if Ishtars are what you fly...


    [Ishtar, PvE Sansha Solo Dual Rep]
    Armor EM Hardener II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Armor EM Hardener II

    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Omnidirectional Tracking Link I

    280mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP S
    280mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP S
    280mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP S
    Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
    Small Remote Armor Repair System II

    Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor II
    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


    Ogre II x5
    Curator II x5
    Vespa EC-600 x5
    Hobgoblin II x5


    420dps with the sentries, but it is hitting in optimal with good tracking and immune to tracking disruptors which should be aggroed on your hull.

    The tank will handle up to 5 Tyrants spawning inside their optimal, more than that (rare) and you'll need a bit of range to kill some before they do full dps.

    The T2 sentry rig was about 20M, which is very reasonable for a PvE ship. It leaves you 17dps short of 2x T1 rig, and in return you get the CCC rig to make you cap stable with an Omni. One Omni is a big improvement, two doesn't give much more, so this is a good compromise.

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    Re: Ishtar

    Pretty sure there is still Sansha Sanctums/Havens in the south Pascal not all of Sansha space is like Providence.

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    Re: Ishtar

    The passive shield Ishtar is tough, no doubt, but the cap recharge is so bad that I'd sometimes be completely out of cap for a long warp in a system. If sitting for a few minutes every couple of jumps doesn't bother you, then it's a great setup. I switched back to an armor setup almost identical to Pascal's and am very happy with it.

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    Re: Ishtar

    [Ishtar, Mission]
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    Armor Kinetic Hardener II
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Medium Armor Repairer II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Large Capacitor Battery II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II

    Civilian Light Electron Blaster, Civilian Blaster Charge
    Salvager I
    Salvager I
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]

    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    My setup, it's cap stable, hardener and drone choice is obviously mission dependant, I usually take a set of t2 smalls, meds and heavies with a set of sentries and then with the 50m3 usually 5 warriors and 5 ecm drones in case the shit hits the proverbial fan

    Vital statistics (with no implants):
    Tank vs. Kin + Therm 1237dps
    Speed 529m/s
    DPS same as every other Ishtar

    Get all agro, trigger all spawns, orbit at 50km and go make a sandwich

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    Re: Ishtar

    That large cap battery works far better than I ever imagined it would.

    It's hard on CPU if you want an Omni + sentry rig(s), but doable.

    Nice fit.

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    Re: Ishtar

    This is my preferred ishtar fit at present for Guristas stuff:
    [Ishtar, entryishtar]
    Medium Armor Repairer II
    Armor Thermic Hardener II
    True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
    True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener
    Armor Thermic Hardener II

    Cap Recharger II
    Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
    Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II

    200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Lead Charge M
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]

    Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor II
    Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


    Garde II x5


    900 (ok, 893) Guristas tank, more capstable than a double-rep armor Ishtar, and has more DPS and tracking than Shield Ishtars.

    For sanctums/havens, the only problem is lock range, which at LRT IV is only 75km, while some battleships spawn at 85km+ (at which point you'd probably switch to Wardens rather than Gardes, but the point still stands).

    Unfortunately, you have to go with a few (cheap as hell) faction armor hardeners to save CPU, but at Drone Rigging III you can swap out the Omnidirectional Tracking Links for the Fed Navy ones.

    At that point, though, the ship is getting a bit too expensive for personal comfort.

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    Re: Ishtar

    Quote Originally Posted by Qyte
    At that point, though, the ship is getting a bit too expensive for personal comfort.
    That is entirely down to the individual though.

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    Re: Ishtar

    You can also just drop the rail, its not like it will add much dps because :lolrails: and no MFS.
    In the place you can fit some small guns to help with frigs

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