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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus Tenebros View Post
    What's the longest/cheapest I can start a new account for at the moment?
    Buddy program + plex? Gives you 51 days of training and the plex gets "refunded" to you. I've used it a few times in the past for setting up a few alts.

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    Yeah, 51d accounts are "free" because of the plex reward, you just need one plex at the start that you can then pass around endlessly to create as many alts as you like and after that you still have the plex and you can sell it for a net total loss of the transaction taxes.

    Only difficult part is passing the plex around, as before you apply the plex on a trial account they can't accept contracts and you can't run two accounts on the same computer if one of them is a trial one. (solutions: two computers, virtualization, anchored cans in safes (you can now use corp bookmarks to easily pass the can BM to all alts)

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    Two of my accounts kept training even though they were unsubbed for three days.
    I even completed a skill while they were inactive.

    Ghost training is back?!

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    No, you only keep training for about three to four days after your sub expires. I think it's mostly just a thing so that even if your sub doesn't get reapplied right away for whatever reason you don't lose the training time.

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    For FW:
    Are the LP stores available only in low sec or can you spend FW LP in certain HS stations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanral View Post
    For FW:
    Are the LP stores available only in low sec or can you spend FW LP in certain HS stations?
    Any station that belongs to your FW Militia Corp (State Protectorate, Federal Defense Union etc)

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    And you can find them in both low and highsec
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    Those few new mods, where do they drop? The adaptive hardener and spectrum breaker, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liptonez View Post
    Those few new mods, where do they drop? The adaptive hardener and spectrum breaker, for instance.
    From CCP, you can get bpcs of the new mods from 'Pirate faction archaeology/hacking sites' and commander/officer loot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Only difficult part is passing the plex around, as before you apply the plex on a trial account they can't accept contracts and you can't run two accounts on the same computer if one of them is a trial one. (solutions: two computers, virtualization, anchored cans in safes (you can now use corp bookmarks to easily pass the can BM to all alts)
    Since CCP have ignored my attempts to warn them of the ability to run trial accounts easily on the same PC I'll just let anyone reading this know that you can run the trial from the same client install by making a shortcut that runs in 'win 98 compatablility mode'. Seeing as I'm on XP still I have no idea if this works on anything more modern. I guess also since the new EvE launcher you would have to change it's options to only appear if an update is to be applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Only difficult part is passing the plex around, as before you apply the plex on a trial account they can't accept contracts and you can't run two accounts on the same computer if one of them is a trial one. (solutions: two computers, virtualization, anchored cans in safes (you can now use corp bookmarks to easily pass the can BM to all alts)
    Since CCP have ignored my attempts to warn them of the ability to run trial accounts easily on the same PC I'll just let anyone reading this know that you can run the trial from the same client install by making a shortcut that runs in 'win 98 compatablility mode'. Seeing as I'm on XP still I have no idea if this works on anything more modern. I guess also since the new EvE launcher you would have to change it's options to only appear if an update is to be applied.
    Just did this to make myself a new FW alt. +rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Only difficult part is passing the plex around, as before you apply the plex on a trial account they can't accept contracts and you can't run two accounts on the same computer if one of them is a trial one. (solutions: two computers, virtualization, anchored cans in safes (you can now use corp bookmarks to easily pass the can BM to all alts)
    If you have a corp just accept your alt and drop it in his hangar.
    Requires moving a PLEX out of jita though, but it's a one time thing.

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    What are the latest rules regarding leaving corp while engaged in the war?

    I think I've read something about 7 days of "cool down" before being able to join another corp - is this right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin_getter
    Why don't we just remove highsec all together, since carebears obviously should not be rewarded by being allowed to login to the game?

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    7 days to rejoin the same corp if war is not mutual, afaik. No other rules for individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Only difficult part is passing the plex around, as before you apply the plex on a trial account they can't accept contracts and you can't run two accounts on the same computer if one of them is a trial one. (solutions: two computers, virtualization, anchored cans in safes (you can now use corp bookmarks to easily pass the can BM to all alts)
    Since CCP have ignored my attempts to warn them of the ability to run trial accounts easily on the same PC I'll just let anyone reading this know that you can run the trial from the same client install by making a shortcut that runs in 'win 98 compatablility mode'. Seeing as I'm on XP still I have no idea if this works on anything more modern. I guess also since the new EvE launcher you would have to change it's options to only appear if an update is to be applied.
    Someday far in the future I will be reminded of this moment and cringe in shame... but for right now? +rep

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    I've kept it between myself and CCP for five years now but since they are happy to laugh at their player-base while shitting in them I don't mind repaying the favour (lol spacemad etc).

    Sent from my electric telephone

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    Anyone play around yet with the adaptive armor hardener, and understand its mechanic? Like for instance a geddon (shooting em at u) a tempest (shooting explosive at u) and a drake (shooting kinetic at u), how does the hardener work, change its resistance profile everytime you get hit by something or just allocates highest resist to thing doing most damage to you.

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    https://forums.eveonline.com/default...12#post1268712
    Quote Originally Posted by CCP Tuxford
    Quote Originally Posted by 2ofSpades
    (2) The other part I noticed was the hardener didnt seem to re-adapt. I was getting shot by a drake and my resistance was all kin and a proteus warped in started shooting me. The drake had stopped shooting me but my resistance didnt re-adapt to therm/kin for the proteus. This flaw actually worked out to my advantage because I had a thermal hardener fitted so I was able to avoid a stacking penalty. After I reset the hardener it did adapt to the proteus giving me 50/50 therm/kin. Once again not very adaptive but still a cool idea, you should nerf the drake with a 15% morphing shield resistance bonus instead of its 25% across the board.
    The version we have is pretty simple. It just takes one point of the two lowest resists and adds them to the two highest resists. When it has no more points to take it just does nothing. The issue you have now is that your hardener has adapted to only kinetic damage which means all the other resistances are now at zero. This means as long as your kinetic damage is is one of the two highest damage types you take then it well never shift to take your second highest one into account. This seems slightly broken to me so I'll bring it to the attention of my team.
    It's not super-clear that he's talking about the resist profile of the module itself having 2 resists at 0%, rather than your effective ship resists after the thing's been adjusting.
    Post #47 in that thread might have an algorithm that won't get 'stuck' but no response from Devs to that. All we can tell is that it's probably not perfect yet because they say in there that they will make higher meta versions once happy with it.
    Last I heard was the change per cycle % was upped from lol 1% to ... 3%?
    Also that thread suggests stopping the hardener will reset the resist profile. So that's a quick way to get half-way to a new profile should damage change, but also a way for neuts to counter your hardening tank (it's an active module after all).

    A better answer might be:
    https://forums.eveonline.com/default...70#post1237770
    Quote Originally Posted by CCP SoniClover
    Quote Originally Posted by Vessper
    Is there any information on how the resistance shifting armor hardener works?
    It's an active module with a 10 sec cycle, every cycle it checks the damage received in the cycle and adjust the resistance bonus the module gives based on that. It takes the top two damage types and increases the resistance against them while reducing the other two by the same amount (if you have received only a single damage type, it adjust only that one). It's a zero-sum system, meaning for instance that if the resistance bonus for a damage type is at 0, it can't be reduced further and the one's to be increased don't increase as much.
    With at least 2 more back & forth Q & As about it on that page/in that thread (use the blue Next Dev Post thingy).
    Last edited by Daneel Trevize; May 27 2012 at 10:33:32 PM.

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    Does the reduced cost of clones in FW systems only apply to those in FW corps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Lee View Post
    Does the reduced cost of clones in FW systems only apply to those in FW corps?
    nope, its for anyone who installs a clone in an upgraded system.


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