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    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValorousBob View Post
    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    They couldn't, or didn't before Sreegs got hired, but I wouldn't chance it on TQ now.

    Which is annoying, since when AP0 was available, I never autopiloted anyway, and now that I do autopilot all over highsec, I can't use it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValorousBob View Post
    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    afaik they can only detect Python injections when they cause errors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora148 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ValorousBob View Post
    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    afaik they can only detect Python injections when they cause errors
    There are many many ways to detect the injected code even if it's error free, the question just becomes can the injector spot all the detection routines and replace them with ones that just say "we see nothing wrong"

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
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    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    afaik they can only detect Python injections when they cause errors
    There are many many ways to detect the injected code even if it's error free, the question just becomes can the injector spot all the detection routines and replace them with ones that just say "we see nothing wrong"
    That explains so much about CCP customer service.

    The logs are too busy being overwritten by injected code to ever actually show anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
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    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    They couldn't, or didn't before Sreegs got hired, but I wouldn't chance it on TQ now.
    What's the significance of Sreegs? Is he/she an anti-cheat person or something?


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    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    afaik they can only detect Python injections when they cause errors
    There are many many ways to detect the injected code even if it's error free, the question just becomes can the injector spot all the detection routines and replace them with ones that just say "we see nothing wrong"
    That explains so much about CCP customer service.

    The logs are too busy being overwritten by injected code to ever actually show anything
    So what you're saying is that this is all Monkeysphere's fault? Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValorousBob View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValorousBob View Post
    Is injecting code for that sort of purpose something CCP frowns upon? Or can even detect?
    They couldn't, or didn't before Sreegs got hired, but I wouldn't chance it on TQ now.
    What's the significance of Sreegs? Is he/she an anti-cheat person or something?

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    Timer on a jet can still about two hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    Timer on a jet can still about two hours?
    If you name it, its about an hour if you don't iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlona Sky View Post
    Timer on a jet can still about two hours?
    About one and a half if you don't rename it, two if you do.

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    Speaking of botting (were we?), how well has the security team stuck to this comittment? I don't recall reading about any more mass bannings, which you really shouldn't if they are doing them regularly.

    The process is designed that way because I don't believe that security is something you unwrap once every 2 months and pat yourself on the back about. What I said a year ago about the subject remains true today in that I believe it to be a continued process. This will be a slow burn and it will be regular. I do need to add to that the fact that these things were turned off for a period of time. As you are all aware the company has gone through a lot of changes in the recent months. Because of this there was a period of time where nobody had responsibility for handling the technology responsible for nuking botters.
    Have they got the bots running scared, or are they back to giving all the CCP employees hand jobs?
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    Read The Nosy Gamers blog; CCP is doing quite good job based on the amounts of whine on botting forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depili View Post
    Read The Nosy Gamers blog; CCP is doing quite good job based on the amounts of whine on botting forums.
    Thanks for the tip. Two things I gathered from a quick read: the Unified Inventory fucked up how bots work, and the Mackinaw will be the new all-around favorite ship of botters. No real info on ban hammers, but that's to be expected with the record of open communication from a company like CCP.
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    I've just come back to EVE after nearly 3 years out of the game. Is it still beneficial to create a new client (ie create a new eve folder on the hard drive) per character/account or does it not really matter anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch View Post
    I've just come back to EVE after nearly 3 years out of the game. Is it still beneficial to create a new client (ie create a new eve folder on the hard drive) per character/account or does it not really matter anymore?
    It still fine for overveiw settings etc but tbh I dont really see the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch View Post
    I've just come back to EVE after nearly 3 years out of the game. Is it still beneficial to create a new client (ie create a new eve folder on the hard drive) per character/account or does it not really matter anymore?
    symlinks are your friend. N times the separate settings for zero additional space hogging. Obviously doesn't help for loading times but that has never really bothered me much.

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    AFAIK that's only useful for having different graphics settings per character/account. I've been fine with the 1 install for running 2 or 3 chars at once, and they can of course still have different overviews and UI layouts.

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    When are the aggro changes due to be implemented and what is the general gist of the latest ideas? A while ago there was a suggestion that ship destruction in lowsec wouldn't reduce your sec status below -2 and so it wouldn't lock you out of highsec. Podkilling would still take you to -10 though. Is this still on the cards?
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    Sounds like a great change. The odds seems slim to me, though. I have a funny feeling that CCP wants to keep the faction status for Aurum option in play.
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    No, that would be dumb
    Countries do not exist where I am from. The discovery of the Higgs boson led to limitless power, the elimination of poverty and Kit-Kats for everyone. It is a communist chocolate hellhole and I'm here to stop it ever happening.
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