Batphoning has been part of Eve since Eve was part of Eve.
Sure, maybe I'm just imagining things, but seems to me like it's more common in lowsec now than it was say 2-3 years ago. v0v
Edit: Nawww that can't be it. I haven't heard of anyone doing that. Have you?
Last edited by Veratrix; July 19 2016 at 09:03:41 PM.
Yep and then one of those annoying big groups showed up on que, and fortunately the batphone was there to deal with them.
Edit: no one is batphoning to fight No Handlebars. they're batphoning to fight the other people in the area that typically show up. Solicited by No Handlebars. or not.
Last edited by Veratrix; July 19 2016 at 10:03:46 PM.
Wolfs bud. If cal mil didn't batphone they would have just got dunked by y'all. If calmil had only batphoned galmil they would have been dunked by y'all. Like it was objectively the right call. Instead they got a big fight and came out on top. Literally everyone has batphoned before and somehow everyone still manages to get fights. This one batphone is not suddenly gonna be the end of good fights for calmil/galmil whoever. They're not going the way of PMC and you know it.
Edit: Maybe. Just maybe. No one ever really had the intention of fighting only No Handlebars. Maybe the goal the whole time was drawing out one of the bigger fish and baiting them. In which case, like, op success?
Last edited by Veratrix; July 20 2016 at 02:49:03 AM.
You don't seem to realize that MC/TBC might not be around next time, but Baltrom won't forget you blued with cal mil as well as having them on standby. Now when he phones people will be like "see we totally need a huge batphone ready"
Last edited by Wolfsdragoon; July 20 2016 at 01:54:21 PM.
Since that fight galmil has fought templis and temped with no handlebars, and that's just what I got from casually skimming slack. I think you're using a tad too much hyperbole over the effect this fight will have on lowsec relations. The small fish will still play nice(read minimal batphones) for the most part. Cause that is how we prefer to operate. Hence staying small fish all these years.
Last edited by Veratrix; July 20 2016 at 02:16:34 PM.
I read the broad scope of "hurt our chances agianst getting fights with people our size" and the "ruined our future fights with them or anyone else similar sized" or "same retarded shit PMC does" as a bit of hyperbole, if only from the scale it implies(and comparing galmil to PMC. Come on). It's whatever though. I literally do not play, just like to read kb's and wanted to jokingly give Niden shit for joining snuff. So if this leads to the downward spiral of gudfights for mid-tier lowsec alliances then I will be none the worse for it.
Last edited by Veratrix; July 20 2016 at 03:18:15 PM.
Ok, does extremely overcomping with phones help or hurt your chances of getting a fight with someone you outnumber? Also the "ruin future fights" is under the context of you overcomping with phones. Do you think overcomping with phones against someone you can easily handle on your own will have good overall consequences for future fights?
Last edited by Wolfsdragoon; July 20 2016 at 03:38:01 PM.
i feel like i should start shit posting about my sides...
Wolf, don't try logic. I've tried for years.
"Press your face up against the shields." Phant 2015
"Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
Oh, how I wish he’d go away"
Galmil wrecked a Calmil fleet with Bastard Cartel as support, 15 bn ISK killed in total. We were hitting a Calmil citadel in a brawling BS fleet, got distracted momentarily while we beat up a small LowSechnaya Sholupen T1 cruiser gang, then resumed hitting the citadel when we learned that TBC was on the move down to us and squids formed up their usual kiting rattlesnake fleet.
Much to our surprised TBC just travelled gate-to-gate instead of jumping from their Eha Titan. Squids entered system to start the fight first with their kiting Rattlesnakes. Through some cunning highly OPSEC trickery we quickly scram webbed the FC and fleet anchor, then landed our fleet on top of him. Squids were lost, burning back to gate and not aggressing for a while as they hoped in vain for their FC to return to gate.
Bastard Cartel jumped in, we had a point blank battleship brawl with them, but we dropped triage and they didn't. Our Apostles were tanking their fleet. Squids rage-pinged for dreads and brought in a failfit Naglfar (which died) but killed 1 Apostle first. The remaining Apostle hero-tanked its way to victory.
My carrier was trying to knock out rattlesnake drones for a large part of the fight but there were just too damned many for one SSF carrier to make a difference. I did score 3 gecko kills but sadly no killlmails get made for those. In the end I just switched back to damage fighters and joined in the rape.
Exodus were on field whoring away happily and sniping at pods.
The funniest part? Bastard Cartel being salty about it later, because they were convinced that the whole thing was a cunning plot by Escalating Entropy to drop on them. EE was sitting on their Vey Titan at the time according to them, and TBC were sure that Galmil had EE on batphone. They therefore tried to stay cheap and avoided committing their own capitals, only to face 4 of ours.
Last edited by Skypoint; July 25 2016 at 04:54:43 AM.
i've been playing around with feroxes as a throwaway roaming doctrine for a while, and had planned on jumping into hykanima during tbc's citadel vulnerability period and shooting it to pick a fight with them. they took forever to form up, and formed up machariels with erebus boosts which was not really fightable for us, so we took off for greener pastures
meanwhile, lord's servant is out trying to find a party out in black rise in a solo moa, and i asked him to let me know if he saw anything we could fight but he couldn't. he scouts chaos in a naug fleet, and galmil in a nega fleet. so i convo stormguard from exodus and ask him what's up, he confirms lords' scouting and says he thinks eldwinn is running the chaos fleet, so i convo eldwinn and ask if he wants to voltron the negas then thunderdome for the field, which he agrees.
so we hold in hikkoken for a little bit trying to get the galmil fleet's attention, they want us to jump into them, i don't want to with them having the comp advantage, then stormguard tells me they're lining up for a boosh on the nega fleet. we jump in, hold cloak, and... two negas get booshed.
whatever, fuck it, decloak, anchor up, let's pull range and try this out. we start shooting a couple galmil logi, but they're holding, and then tbc bridges in a mach fleet with a ninazu and moros and start shooting at galmil, who promptly fleet the field (and i don't blame them)
the ninazu is pretty on point so we're not breaking anything of tbc's, i pull quite a bit of range and try to shoot stragglers, and then exodus gets a prime boosh on a mach, which we frag. logi is telling me we're not holding, so i try to take us out, and then calmil jumps in with a rattlesnake fleet, so we ping off and back at 100
at this point neither chaos nor us are having any luck breaking anything, but apparently exodus' constant harassment is wearing on calmil/tbc so they extract. a few calmil logi stragglers are caught and tishu/chaos hold the field.
literally what tho
Last edited by meowtiger; August 1 2016 at 04:35:55 AM.
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