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    And i am back with 2 nice fights happened on same night.

    After losing stupidly 2 Oneiroses chilling on gates, Bagger formed an Alliance fleet to chase those rude ppl that touched us in special places. We caught few but the important thing that happened is that while chasing that kitchensink fleet our scout noticed a gang forming on a Titan in Hysera. It was the UCF boys. Alliance fleet went home and BALEX prepared a fleet to counter the UCF one. We went out in Cynabals and Guards, 10 dps ships and 4 Guards. Enemy had around 15 dps btw faction cruisers and assault cruisers. We chased them but they were not up for the fight and we ended catching only one VNI on a gate.

    Interesting thing was that Snuffed also formed a fleet for them but at the end we ended clashing into each other. Snuff had 11 VNI, 2 Vexors, a SFI, 1 Ashimmu and 3 Guards. We run into them in Abune on Heyd gate. They were on the opposit side, both fleets had their drones out and none seemed willing to jump to the other group. We got our drones in and warped to the out gate hoping they d be encouraged to fight. So it happened, Snuffed jumped in the system and started warping around to find the most suitable warp in for them. They landed on top of our dps squadron while our 4 guardians were safe for a while on range. We traded some ammo to test the tanks and weaknesses of each other. We succeded to clear some ecm drones on the Guardians and at that time hell happened, VNIs were on top of us, neuts and damps were all around. BALEX Guardians were doing a lot of micromanagement capping primarries and our heavily neuted Gaurd. Some of our guys couldn't even turn DC on which almost costed us few ships. They were multitasking a lot guns, neuts, drones, damps and in those circumstances mistakes happen, some probably late broadcasts combined with our own damps slipped us trough few kills. We were changing targets constantly and BALEX guys focus fire pretty decently. We wanted to try their Guards tanking capabilities but they moved away a bit and at that time our dampeners changed to range scripts which netted us some more kills. Soon after they deagressed and jumped while BALEX stayed to loot the wrecks.

    After discussed the Snuffed fight and went trough all the details, we took a WH to check if smth was going around in Maut. Absolutely nothing, started burning home and wanted to try some Nennamaila more. In Alliance channel a fight was reported in Ostingele I burned a scout there and in Renarelle I noticed a 30 man strong T1 cruiser gang, they had around 5 Exequerors and were chased by Gallente militia, 15-20 man gang composed of 4 Guards, faction and T2 cruisers. We waited for them in Vlillirier neither gang wanted to engage us. We started heading home and noticed Gallente militia scouts going after us. Suddenly our rear scouts reported systems filling with 50 ppl. Those 2 gangs joined up and started chasing us. Fleet moved a bit form Nennamaila because we didn't want more kitchensink on top of us, meanwhile discussing if we could even engage that fleet. There was lots of neuts, damps (Celestises) and frigate jammers. We said WTH let try it. Fight happened in Heydieles on Abune gate. Lot of things were happening but somehow our focused dmg combined with damps allowed us to pop every broadcasted ship despite 9 logi ships, 4 Guards and 5 Exeq they had. I can't describe you what was like being a logi in that fight. I called immediately to overheat all of our electronic countermeasures, sensors and remote sensor boosters, ECCM and remote ECCMs, overheat it all and overheat it now! Rep broadcasts needed to be on time and it means broadcast while you are targeted, nvm you are not getting dmg we need to have you locked. BALEX boys played it really good all BCs were on time and still we were catching ppl in low 30% armor. Was hell flying a Guard I needed to hold us far away but not too much because of damps and close enough but not too close so we don't get a fast dps switch on us. Capacitor problems all around, leave one guard without a chain for few cycles to cap another one or primary, dancing on the edge, that is how we like it. At the end it went well for us, we snatched 20 ships loosing none.

    GF all around o7
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    Snuff lost to Balex loo
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    How the fuck does Zloco only have 1 bar of rep?!
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    Idk about that, and i'm fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Trevize View Post
    How the fuck does Zloco only have 1 bar of rep?!
    He is not affiliated to any repcartel maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph IX Basarab View Post
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    2nd EE cap lost this week to DD's
    Guess Drifter's finishing what you started Lex. Get on their level.
    Their level ? They just lost 2 moros to a single guy
    You can't get worst than that.

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    Another Cyno drops, it would seem Lex Arson was once again having a casual roam in his #ApexForce of around 20-25 Carriers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Arson View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by vyshnegradsky View Post
    Back in the day when Drunk N disorderly and Lost Obsession were still around (2012?) I remember them dropping tons of caps and faction battleships. Even though FW isn't the same isk printer it was after inferno, can't you still make alot of easy money there? Enough to say, dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads?
    SOTF had the best FC Gal Mil has ever had and another 2 in the top 10 of all time in Gal Mil. The problem is the lack of collective experience at the larger scale. Gal Mil probably has the numbers to dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads, but those dreads would all die to the 20 Snuff supers on standby. Having those dreads on standby also means losing 30-40 BS from the subcap fleet. Most pilots cannot afford to lose 2B isk ships like candy, so they tend to be wary of risking them for unproven FCs at that level. There just isn't anybody with the experience in Gal to lead those kind of fleets nor the intelligence network to monitor known super pilots within range. It takes time to move up the food chain. Every time Gal Mil gets close, something happens that causes a lot of the 100M+ SP characters to leave militia for Shadow Cartel/Snuff/Null (SOTF implodes when Gallactica, Lock Out, and Tek quit Eve, Dark Rising goes back to null/Mitch takes an Eve break, QCATS implodes when chatgris quits Eve, Perunga defects to Snuff, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Vuaban View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vyshnegradsky View Post
    Back in the day when Drunk N disorderly and Lost Obsession were still around (2012?) I remember them dropping tons of caps and faction battleships. Even though FW isn't the same isk printer it was after inferno, can't you still make alot of easy money there? Enough to say, dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads?
    SOTF had the best FC Gal Mil has ever had and another 2 in the top 10 of all time in Gal Mil. The problem is the lack of collective experience at the larger scale. Gal Mil probably has the numbers to dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads, but those dreads would all die to the 20 Snuff supers on standby. Having those dreads on standby also means losing 30-40 BS from the subcap fleet. Most pilots cannot afford to lose 2B isk ships like candy, so they tend to be wary of risking them for unproven FCs at that level. There just isn't anybody with the experience in Gal to lead those kind of fleets nor the intelligence network to monitor known super pilots within range. It takes time to move up the food chain. Every time Gal Mil gets close, something happens that causes a lot of the 100M+ SP characters to leave militia for Shadow Cartel/Snuff/Null (SOTF implodes when Gallactica, Lock Out, and Tek quit Eve, Dark Rising goes back to null/Mitch takes an Eve break, QCATS implodes when chatgris quits Eve, Perunga defects to Snuff, etc).
    SOTF really wasn't the godtier elite pvp gal mil guys seem to think they were. They were pretty decent at dread bombs.

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    you'd think all these plex whoring nerds would be much better prepared to lose a dread than you make it sound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Vuaban View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vyshnegradsky View Post
    Back in the day when Drunk N disorderly and Lost Obsession were still around (2012?) I remember them dropping tons of caps and faction battleships. Even though FW isn't the same isk printer it was after inferno, can't you still make alot of easy money there? Enough to say, dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads?
    SOTF had the best FC Gal Mil has ever had and another 2 in the top 10 of all time in Gal Mil. The problem is the lack of collective experience at the larger scale. Gal Mil probably has the numbers to dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads, but those dreads would all die to the 20 Snuff supers on standby. Having those dreads on standby also means losing 30-40 BS from the subcap fleet. Most pilots cannot afford to lose 2B isk ships like candy, so they tend to be wary of risking them for unproven FCs at that level. There just isn't anybody with the experience in Gal to lead those kind of fleets nor the intelligence network to monitor known super pilots within range. It takes time to move up the food chain. Every time Gal Mil gets close, something happens that causes a lot of the 100M+ SP characters to leave militia for Shadow Cartel/Snuff/Null (SOTF implodes when Gallactica, Lock Out, and Tek quit Eve, Dark Rising goes back to null/Mitch takes an Eve break, QCATS implodes when chatgris quits Eve, Perunga defects to Snuff, etc).
    I understand the loss of experienced FC's hurting the millita. I'm not really up to date with the current alliances in faction warfare, especially up north. What are the biggest groups? Between them they should be able to pull a decent number of dreads. When the supers inevitably come in, the subcaps swap to webbing and killing fighter bombers. Of course you will still lose dreads but insurance takes care of a lot of the cost.

    I'm not saying it's easy, but it's certainly not impossible. It just takes some actual co-ordination across groups to make it work.

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    people I've heard referred to as top-level militia FC's are so shit they can't even hold a candle to the lower-level syndicate alliance fc's, who are very terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
    Another Cyno drops, it would seem Lex Arson was once again having a casual roam in his #ApexForce of around 20-25 Carriers
    Mystical Might > introduction 2 supers by Lex Arson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Arson View Post
    people I've heard referred to as top-level militia FC's are so shit they can't even hold a candle to the lower-level syndicate alliance fc's, who are very terrible
    Some of the dudes who used to FC in FW now FC in null blocks or LS pirate alliances. Just as good FCs tend to head to CFC/PL/BL/etc. You go where you know you can get the bodies into the ships you want. Hence why FCs will avoid places like BRAVE, RvB or FW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesbones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lex Arson View Post
    people I've heard referred to as top-level militia FC's are so shit they can't even hold a candle to the lower-level syndicate alliance fc's, who are very terrible
    Some of the dudes who used to FC in FW now FC in null blocks or LS pirate alliances. Just as good FCs tend to head to CFC/PL/BL/etc. You go where you know you can get the bodies into the ships you want. Hence why FCs will avoid places like BRAVE, RvB or FW.
    yes I think that statement was the general consensus of the last several pages thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptoast View Post
    Another Cyno drops, it would seem Lex Arson was once again having a casual roam in his #ApexForce of around 20-25 Carriers
    Mystical Might > introduction 2 supers by Lex Arson
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    Hey back before that whole Seraph vs Grath thing ruined this thread, there was talk of some alliance called BADIT moving from Molden Heath to the Uemon pipe
    Whatever happened to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Vuaban View Post
    to leave militia for Shadow Cartel/Snuff/Null (SOTF implodes when Gallactica, Lock Out, and Tek quit Eve, Dark Rising goes back to null/Mitch takes an Eve break, QCATS implodes when chatgris quits Eve, Perunga defects to Snuff, etc).
    SP-DR also lost jasonxxl and vim to shdwc it hurt us there for a while but we had julius and giuynan having to create content and they were getting a lil stretched now we have wolfs in the mix whose been a fresh of breath air for the corp and are starting to build again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Vuaban View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vyshnegradsky View Post
    Back in the day when Drunk N disorderly and Lost Obsession were still around (2012?) I remember them dropping tons of caps and faction battleships. Even though FW isn't the same isk printer it was after inferno, can't you still make alot of easy money there? Enough to say, dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads?
    SOTF had the best FC Gal Mil has ever had and another 2 in the top 10 of all time in Gal Mil. The problem is the lack of collective experience at the larger scale. Gal Mil probably has the numbers to dread bomb 30 archons with 30-40 dreads, but those dreads would all die to the 20 Snuff supers on standby. Having those dreads on standby also means losing 30-40 BS from the subcap fleet. Most pilots cannot afford to lose 2B isk ships like candy, so they tend to be wary of risking them for unproven FCs at that level. There just isn't anybody with the experience in Gal to lead those kind of fleets nor the intelligence network to monitor known super pilots within range. It takes time to move up the food chain. Every time Gal Mil gets close, something happens that causes a lot of the 100M+ SP characters to leave militia for Shadow Cartel/Snuff/Null (SOTF implodes when Gallactica, Lock Out, and Tek quit Eve, Dark Rising goes back to null/Mitch takes an Eve break, QCATS implodes when chatgris quits Eve, Perunga defects to Snuff, etc).
    Those fc's from the golden age of gal fw fc's you pointed out there had literally zero imagination. Their answer to anything was drop dreads on it until its dead and then if anything else happened they started to panic. I remember watching a vid on youtube when we dropped on their gang and the fc (tek if i remember right/lockout was there) and the first thing the fc was something like 'uh its snuff uh, umm wer ded' then proceeded to call me primary in a guard for about 3 mins while his gang died.
    Also they are the reason why snuff has like 20+ supers, there was actually a bit of an argument about getting them to begin with but dreads ahoy meant we needed to.

    Wolfs is a much better fc imo and he is able to actually make decisions in a fight instead of having a panic attack and going quiet.
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    At one point I was highly tempted to 100% superblag my way into FCing a bunch of FW peeps. This in spite of my considerably limited fleet experience.

    Reading this thread; sounds like I might have had a shot at being half decent.
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