tragic : the gathering

[Pacefalm]

I have a Tarmogoyf irl

[Tools]

krenko is not legacy material meight

This was my thought at first, but I don't play the deck so I was totally prepared to be wrong. Turns out I was and the fine folk over at the gobbos thread on mtgthesource seem to have settled on running two Krenkos.

[ChocolateDigestive]

Krenko + Arms Dealer, so good. Krenko + Ib + Goblin Chieftain, is even better. Krenko will see play in Legacy decks.
Recommend going to Game and buying the intro decks from there if you're a Brit. 3 packs of cards, and a 60 card deck for a tenner. The packs themselves are worth around 9 quid.

krenko is not legacy material meight

I dunno, Krenko is good food for Siege Gang Commander, amazing with Goblin Piledriver too.
Skirk Prospector + Ib + Krenko, there has to be something you can do with this.

[filingo]

i had forgotten about goblin lackey /o\

i play kudoltha red for my burn deck in modern and do ok with it, need to get some vexing devils to swap out for my goblin grenades. i just think krenko is a tiny bit slow but then i dont play straight up goblins. maybe theres a combo you can set up with him....?

[ChocolateDigestive]

i had forgotten about goblin lackey /o\

i play kudoltha red for my burn deck in modern and do ok with it, need to get some vexing devils to swap out for my goblin grenades. i just think krenko is a tiny bit slow but then i dont play straight up goblins. maybe theres a combo you can set up with him....?

Warren Instigator is good as well, not as good, but good.

Krenko and Chieftain put out with Lackeys effect with a couple Quest for the Goblin Lord's out could be cause for shenanigans.

I think Vexing Devil is worse than GG, Vexing devil will always be a 4 damage sorcery. GG is removal and burn, even the sacrifice can be used to your advantage (Goblin Arsonist)

[filingo]

i think ill move it to the sideboard

i mean i dont have many goblins tbh, goblin guides, bushwhackers and some kuldotha rebirths so the goblin grenade could easily sit there being a dead card. i do have the arsonists sitting in the sideboard but... the vexing devil seems good for me. i run a very fast deck and 4 damage or a 4/3 which will probably be hasted or have a couple of +1/+0 stacks on it from battle cry/constested warzone is going to be dangerous

[ChocolateDigestive]

i think ill move it to the sideboard

i mean i dont have many goblins tbh, goblin guides, bushwhackers and some kuldotha rebirths so the goblin grenade could easily sit there being a dead card. i do have the arsonists sitting in the sideboard but... the vexing devil seems good for me. i run a very fast deck and 4 damage or a 4/3 which will probably be hasted or have a couple of +1/+0 stacks on it from battle cry/constested warzone is going to be dangerous

Do you run artifact lands or Mishra's Factory in Kuldotha? Teetering Peaks and Goblin Burrrows could be good to look into aswell.

How many people will let Vexing Devil hit the table. I'd prefer to have him in the sideboard, the 6 damage with GG and an arsonist is too much to give up for me. That's a dead Baneslayer and a dead Champion of the Parish. I'd prefer Vexing Devil in Izzet.

[Pacefalm]

If your opponent also has burn cards or creature removal they can consider letting the vexing devil resolve & deal with it afterwwards. With 3 toughness it is in reach of a single lightning bolt while nobody would use lightning bolt on a goblin arsonist

[filingo]

its modern so artifact lands are banned

it looks a little something like this.. although i may have swapped a few bits around

4 Contested War Zone
18 Mountain
4 Chimeric Mass
4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
2 Devastating Summons
4 Goblin Bushwhacker
4 Goblin Guide
4 Kuldotha Rebirth
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Signal Pest
4 Shrapnel Blast

#60

Sideboard:
2 Devastating Summons
4 Goblin Arsonist
4 Goblin Grenade
1 Arc Trail
4 Myr Sire

#15

[ChocolateDigestive]

If your opponent also has burn cards or creature removal they can consider letting the vexing devil resolve & deal with it afterwwards. With 3 toughness it is in reach of a single lightning bolt while nobody would use lightning bolt on a goblin arsonist

That's true. I just think the versatility of removal and burn is worth it.

Filingo, ever considered Frogmites (or affinity in general) or Galvanic Blast?

[filingo]

i havent played much normal magic for a while but i found that my artifacts have a pretty short lifespan and i wasnt getting metalcraft up enough, using the artifacts to fuel kuldotha rebirth and shrapnel blasts had been working better for me.

we played a fucking slog of a commander game last night. started out with 5 people and two more people showed up, one of the 5 was getting butthurt and calling me a bad person because i ran land destruction (hi meight, countering your boring ramp tactics does not make me a bad person) so he said "why dont we restart, so everyone can play. lets split into 3 and 4 because 7 is too many, filingo can be in the 3" i said ill swap decks if he couldn't handle it and did. he then went to play pokemon whilst leaning over peoples shoulders giving them advice. butthurt irl.

game was pretty fucking vicious, everyone shat on everyone with the thrax deck and the silly lifegain deck being the dangerous two. the thrax deck decided i was a problem so we scrapped while other people sat around, then someone wipes the board as i finally fuck over thrax resetting everything. thanks a fucking lot meight. thanks a whole fucking lot. game carried on with everyone shitting on everyone else, thrax won in the end. not the most fun as it devolved into a cripple fight with mr butt hurt pokemans getting involved (taking someones turns for him as the other guy was wandering around) to make the board state as shit as poss. i was bored and waiting to die so i was just chatting shit about gargles and sacricing random things to him

http://magiccards.info/ts/en/161.html

gargles is the fucking best.

[Dan Pyre]

Posting from iPod but anyway.

Building a Zedruu Commander deck, effects are:

At upkeep gain X life and draw X cards, where X is the number of permanents that you own that opponents control.
Pay R+W+B: Target opponent gains control of permanent you control.

SO, what are some fun cards to put in this deck to give to other people? I've already got stuff like Grid Monitor and Lich's Tomb, but I'm a pretty bad magic player so you all probably have some good ideas.

Looking to make a fun deck though, so no shit like the card that makes all your lands plains so you can give it to someone who doesn't use plains.

Thanks guys!

[Pacefalm]

Lichs tomb is a pretty weak card for this since he will just sacrifice the permanents you gave him.
You can do simple stuff like give him control of a Pacifism or similar cards on one of his creatures, doesn't benefit him at all but counts for the ability.
Steel golem is like Grid Monitor but cheaper.
Shifting Borders is pretty much a must have.
Bronze Bombshell becomes 4 mana 7 damage burn but doesn't work so well with the "at upkeep" ability.
Other fun things can be stuff like Symbiotic Deployment or similar cards which can be very rage inducing when combined with Grid Monitor (if you could play green).

There is a lot you can do.

[filingo]

maybe try gifting people things like alabaster leech?

http://magiccards.info/in/en/1.html

[filingo]

maybe try gifting people things like alabaster leech?

http://magiccards.info/in/en/1.html

[Pacefalm]

You can gift Ancient Runes + a ton of artifacts as well if you play with few artifacts yourself.
Pro if you can get Ivory Gargoyle or Molten Firebird. Gift it to him, kill it with w/e, it returns to you and he skips his draw.

[filingo]

wait until you are below 20 life and gift this badboy to someone who has lots of life http://magiccards.info/tr/en/20.html

[Dan Pyre]

Thanks for the suggestions guys! Zedruu's hopefully coming in the mail today so I'll be able to construct the deck then. I'll be sure to grab some of the cards you listed for the deck! (especially transendence, haha holy shit)

In other news I drafted with some of my friends last night - one of the older guys had a sealed box of Champions of Kamigawa that we used.

Wow.

Those cards were terribad horribawful. How was that even made a set, ever?

[filingo]

Thanks for the suggestions guys! Zedruu's hopefully coming in the mail today so I'll be able to construct the deck then. I'll be sure to grab some of the cards you listed for the deck! (especially transendence, haha holy shit)

In other news I drafted with some of my friends last night - one of the older guys had a sealed box of Champions of Kamigawa that we used.

Wow.

Those cards were terribad horribawful. How was that even made a set, ever?

kamigawa is AMAZING

[Winged Nazgul]

Thanks for the suggestions guys! Zedruu's hopefully coming in the mail today so I'll be able to construct the deck then. I'll be sure to grab some of the cards you listed for the deck! (especially transendence, haha holy shit)

In other news I drafted with some of my friends last night - one of the older guys had a sealed box of Champions of Kamigawa that we used.

Wow.

Those cards were terribad horribawful. How was that even made a set, ever?

You can't complain unless you've ever opened up any packs of Homelands like I have.