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    Re: Claw

    I'm guessing, fit 125mm's, get in a fast orbit and hope the dram doesn't have a web or tries to kite you.

    edit, something like this?


    [Claw, Anti-baddram]
    Damage Control II
    Coreli C-Type Small Armor Repairer
    200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
    Centii A-Type Reactive Plating

    1MN Afterburner II
    J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

    125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    Small Nosferatu II
    125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S

    Small Projectile Burst Aerator II
    Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I

    158 dps

    The same fit can be fit with 200mm guns for 177 dps

    If the Dram knows what he's doing he should still beat you easily, but it's worth a try.

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    Re: Claw

    If there is one thing in eve you can rely on it is that 90% of dram pilots are very, very stupid. A well flown dram will still kill your claw, but the same is true in reverse.

    I've used both 400mm claw fits (Which are OK, but a bit slow for my liking) and my preferred 200mm SAR fit, which I alternately put a neut, nos or rokkit on if im looking for max dps. The following assumes an MWD fit 200mm SAR claw

    Scenario 1: The dramiel.
    Assuming your average MSE scram dram, most pilots won't bother kiting a claw with barrage cause they don't consider it a threat. Load RF PP, overheat everything from the word go, and try and get his transversal low as you can so your guns are getting good hits. Claws only do slightly less dps than drams when they have gank rigs, and the drams main advantage is in drones, but in a close up brawl the claw has the advantage in armour resistances (48% iirc vs explosive with an ANP II) vs 20% (At most) shield resist vs thermal. Not to mention your rep. What you need to hope for here is that the fight is close, otherwise the dram is likely to AB out of your scram and bail. If it's a close fight he's more likely to stick around.

    Scenario 2: The taranis
    Assuming an average dual prop neutron ranis. Ideally here you want the neut claw. Get him to burn as fas as possible to his extended MWD use has his cap sitting on about 40-50%, you should be slightly faster so let him approach slowly with rf fusion loaded, overheat your scram so you can slow him down as soon as possible. Start firing soon as he comes within about 10km, he will start ABing to catch up to you once he has you scrammed, but it will still take him some time to get within dps range. Then soon as he comes within neut range (~5.5km) slam him with the neut. If he's stupid and has AM loaded he won't be ab le to apply dps until he's about 3km away, if he has null and good skills he might start landing hits at 6km. Now your dps is almost as good as his, but your range is better and he's ABing, heating cap heavy guns, and being neuted. More often than not this will cause him to cap out after 2-3 neut cycles, at which point killing him becomes a cakewalk, as your superior EHP and slightly lower dps make short work of him.
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    Re: Claw

    Something I played with last night on Sisi:


    [Claw, SARNoPlate]
    Damage Control II
    Coreli C-Type Small Armor Repairer
    Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plate
    Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plate

    Coreli C-Type 1MN Afterburner
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

    200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
    200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S

    Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
    Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I

    The speed/sig/armour tank was awesome, I had 2x Carriers of Hobgob II's and 5x Warrior II's on me and I was tanking them and shooting them down fine while maintaining a tight orbit on a Scmi close enough to keep my Nos on him, then another cruiser showed up and webbed me, then I popped but yeah was very good up to that point

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    Re: Claw

    http://skuld.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9997162 28% structure after that fight.

    http://skuld.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9981760 25% structure after this one. I was first tackle, huginn never shot anyone else or tackled/webbed anything else. Stayed alive for friends to jump in and get into the fray, shot enough drones to stay alive, and got out with his buddy in a mach at 98km missing me as I entered warp.

    Also solo'd aml caracals with it.

    EDIT: 200plate/sar/nos fit.

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    Re: Claw

    er, thanks for that.

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    Re: Claw

    mwd or ab?

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    Re: Claw

    afterburner...


    [Claw, New Setup 1]
    Small Armor Repairer II
    Corpii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
    Damage Control II
    200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

    1MN Afterburner II
    Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

    150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
    Small Nosferatu II

    Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I


    the rigs I have on there are kinda derp, I put the ccc on to give me more reps while killing the aml caracal and haven't bothered to swap it back.

    People don't seem very afraid of the claw and tend to underestimate it, in my experience at least.

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    My attempt at this fit died when falcon got hungry.
    http://www.merciless-alliance.com/ki...l&kll_id=29583

    inb4 faggotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takon Orlani View Post
    My attempt at this fit died when falcon got hungry.
    http://www.merciless-alliance.com/ki...l&kll_id=29583

    inb4 faggotry.
    I had a fit similar to that except i used a centii a-type explosive plate as it was only 3mil, never saw combat though, still sat in curse somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by cillisia View Post
    I had a fit similar to that except i used a centii a-type explosive plate as it was only 3mil, never saw combat though, still sat in curse somewhere
    I had a great time dying in it, will fly again.
    I had time to make the tackle, wake people up, kill his drones, overheat EVERYTHING, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takon Orlani View Post
    My attempt at this fit died when falcon got hungry.
    http://www.merciless-alliance.com/ki...l&kll_id=29583

    inb4 faggotry.
    You had it coming for 'Falcon didn't do it's job'
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    Like I'm completely alone for using a falcon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takon Orlani View Post
    Like I'm completely alone for using a falcon.
    just because there are a lot of faggots that do it doesn't make it any better m8
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    Had a half success tonight... sadly the dram broke range and killed my alts crusader. My claw did 99% of the work and made the dram run off in half hull.

    it's definitely a nailbiter of an experience going up against a dram in a claw. Even with a SAR sader as bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takon Orlani View Post
    Had a half success tonight... sadly the dram broke range and killed my alts crusader. My claw did 99% of the work and made the dram run off in half hull.

    it's definitely a nailbiter of an experience going up against a dram in a claw. Even with a SAR sader as bait.
    you really don't understand "solo", do you? also lol you failed to kill a dram with 2 inties.
    I tried to be cool and all I got was a lousy warning about my sig being too big.

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    Nah its been a while. Usually when I 1v1 its arranged. I assume everyone has a falcon these days.

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    hrm i lost mine to a jaguar, assumed i'd be able to outtrack him, but he was still doing slightly more dps than my tank could take

    bit annoying really, as it looks quite nice on paper

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    Get a c-type SAR.

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