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    Game Over. v Tribal band

    Date: 5th May 2013
    Location: HIX - Period Basis
    Involved: Game Over. v Tribal Band


    With the return of TRIBE to their homeland and ourselves derp'ing a couple of enyo gangs recently, we decide that it's time to explore other gang compositions to deal with the increasing numbers that we will inevitably be fighting. Unfortunately it is goodbye to the enyo gangs that we've been having so much fun with (See below for br's), for now.

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17432057


    We have a theorycrafting session with our high council and decide that to go forward, we should look into adapting an old fleet comp that Hax. and Entity. have used together before a couple years previous under a different alliance banner, see br below.

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...kll_id=8074716

    We had a lot of fun with it then and -we hope- it would still be viable now. With tweaks made to the fittings and the composition, the high council orders that these doctrines are to be purchased, fitted and ready to be flown by the end of the week.

    We get intel that TRIBE are staging a moving op and that local in HIX is bouncing up and down by the dozens, with capitals and subcaps warping to and from their station. We decide form our our mighty Sleipnir gang and mobilise on the double. A few systems later we are a couple of jumps from HIX, with our scout + links already in place. We have been somewhat scouted we believe so we decide to hold and burn an alt ahead to anchor a wall bubble off their station to stop incoming traffic from reaching the docking ring. Little do TRIBE know of our plan in the hatch, our alt - piloted by myself Oli Robbo, is in place and ready to anchor the bubble and spring the trap. Alt decloaks, bubble is jetisoned for corp, but there is a problem.

    "You do not have the required skills to anchor this object, Anchoring level II is needed".

    With 130 hostiles in local and ships in view on the station the surprise is gone. I admit derp on comms like the scrub I am, laugh, pull in the bubble and Warp off to a safe cloaked. Our chance gone or so we think, we decide to jump the hictor in to the system and just sit in the spot with a bubble up on the off-chance something comes in. To our surprise, as the hictor is in warp to the spot our scout on their beacon pos signals that an Archon has just entered the system. Perfect timing for our hic to bubble up. Our scout confirms the Archon is picking up speed and warping to the station. We all jump in and warp to our hictor. The result follows:

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17638778

    As the Archon dies with his friends undocking, but not helping - 130 hostiles still in local it emerges that the pilot had been having an argument with a Game Over. member for two weeks or so regarding how bad we were as an alliance, compared to TRIBE. Some chat logs of TRIBE alliance chat were posted to us later for some extra lols.

    We decide to stick around for a little longer to see if they hope to get revenge and soon enough we get intel that they're looking to fight, so we get ourselves in position on the undock. True to our intel, they start undocking - a TRIBE thanatos already chilling on the undock with us, they know our position and our logi's.

    Their fleet consisted of around 50-55, with roughly 7scyth, 3scim, 5celestis, some oracales, canes and about 15/20 or so rokhs, the result is as follows:

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17664182

    As we lost our dictor at the start of the fight before the carrier and nothing during the actual midst of battle, unfortunately the battle report isn't true to the engagement.
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    -->Fights well comped Sleipnir fleet
    -->In a shield fleet
    -->Shows up in foxcat
    -->Is a member of tribal band.

    That looks hella fun, and v. nice job.

    What are your thoughts on artillery sleipnirs? They have more range projection than regular AC sleipnirs, and more alpha vs concentrated reps, while maintaining passable dps (~600).

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    Game Over. v Tribal band

    Date: 8th May 2013
    Location: CW9 & Across three systems - Period Basis
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    A couple days later, we get intel that Tribal Band are bored and clearing their back yard of an old C0VEN Infrastructure Hub. Using a couple of dreads and three carriers, with a support bomber / oracle fleet.
    We decide to again mobilise as quick as we can, and we send a ping out for Armor Hacs.

    A little while later with the Rev in siege we are burning and meet some of our local friends Darkness. on the way as we anticipate a couple extra numbers will be needed. We form up on the border of period basis, our fleet consisting of 25 or so plus a couple of link alts and alt scouts. We get scouted early so decide to burn best speed to destination. Our two hics at the head of the charge.

    A couple of jump out of destination we get intel that they're moving their support fleet to our ingate in CW9 and that the dread is still in siege. Our hic jumps in, the hostile bombers are on the gate with other mixed support.

    We decided to jump the rest of the fleet in as our hic bubbles up and round one begins - the insta-popping ensues.

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17682194

    The remaining hostile support fleet scatter, but unfortunately as our hic had entered local, the Rev had exited siege and jumped out along with the other capitals. We decide to give chase and head to HIX anyway to see if we can pull a similar trick to the other day. To our dismay TRIBE were wise to our tactic and not much else happens for twenty minutes or so. As we're deciding to call it a day and head home we gain intel that they are re-shipping into Apoc's with logi and lots of ewar to come and cleanse their homeland. Not wanting to fight on their station with their reported numbers - around the 80 mark, we decide to exit via ZU- and project the image of leaving.

    We enter ZU- and form up on the gate and TRIBE follow as expected. As they enter local we bubble up, but they warp in at a ping 200 or so off of the gate we're on. Not knowing if they will bounce down to the gate or not we hold for a minute or two, eventually bouncing down to us and round two begins.

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17682864

    We loose a shield fitted huginn from Darkness. and one of our Guardians due to the guardian pilot's incompetency, but obliterate all of their ewar and the majority of their fleet forcing the remaining 30 or so to scatter. GFs were put in local and we decide to pop wrecks as we aligned off to head home. However after warping to our exit gate one of our loki pilot's encounters lagg and gets tackled by a hero TRIBE malediction at a ping above the HIX gate. Quite rightly TRIBE are quick to ascend.

    During this we decide to bounce back to the gate once we have landed in the hope of saving our loki pilot, but as we land the loki is destroyed. They scatter again and we decide to jump with those that had already cleared aggro to tackle what we can on the other side of the gate for round three of the remainder of their fleet:

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17683375

    It is to be noted that the brave capsuleer of Amarr Absolution is on the field in all three of these encounters in his Bhaalghorn pirate battleship. Utilizing the most of cutting edge technology such as micro jump drives and multiple target spectrum breakers to evade our tackle on several occasions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordsServant View Post
    -->Fights well comped Sleipnir fleet
    -->In a shield fleet
    -->Shows up in foxcat
    -->Is a member of tribal band.

    That looks hella fun, and v. nice job.

    What are your thoughts on artillery sleipnirs? They have more range projection than regular AC sleipnirs, and more alpha vs concentrated reps, while maintaining passable dps (~600).
    We did consider this, but aside from the alpha the dps is pretty low and they can be easily countered with td's.
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    Game Over. v Tribal band

    Date: 9th May 2013
    Location: HIX - Period Basis
    Involved: Game Over. v TNT v Tribal Band.



    A day later, and still questioning why TRIBE wanted to go for three rounds with the Ahacs, we are hungry for more action. We decide to form up again with ahacs on the off-chance that Tribal Band want to play again. Our friends from Darkness. Join us again and we meet on the outskirts of Period Basis to venture towards HIX.

    As we are en route and only a couple off of our destination we get wind of a 100man CVA T1 cruiser gang or so, entering EIMJ and causing trouble for our sparring companions TRIBE. With HIX looking relatively quiet we decide to head that way to see what's going on, we move a couple of jumps to find out that the majority of their gang is comprised of Caracals, with the high alpha from the numbers they have and the caracal's kiting ability we're not to keen - we pursue anyway to see if we can cut them off and force them to jump into us. However we are late and we loose sight of where they are going - we assume NOL- in Delve and we let them carry on their merry way.

    Still keen for a fight we are unsure as to where to go, luckily we get intel from TRIBE communications of another gang that size belonging to TNT in HIX. Similar to Greenpeace we decide to set our course for the mean TNT to rid our waters of overfishing. With the added hope of a three-way as communications indicate TRIBE are forming up their own 80ish man gang to retaliate against TNT.

    We arrive in local before TRIBE are fully formed. TNT already pursuing the ownership of local chat rights we align to the station and declare that we will rid these vermin from our native sparring grounds. Our scout indicates that TNT have around 80 or so T1 cruisers, mainly comprising of ruptures and around 16 Exequors. We get a warp in and begin the mahem. Immediately off the bat the merciless Tactical Narcotics Team decide to primary the space pilot Oli Robbo, and bring myself down to low armor - Luckily I was able to counter their target calling with an anticipated fifteen or so broadcasts for armor while they were still yellow-boxing. Their choice of initial primary could have been coincidence or it could have been something to do with my history with TNT

    The fight underway, and surrounded by chaos, we are holding reps -ok- while my zealot is back to full armor, slowly chewing through their logistics, we move into a closer position right outside the undock to apply MAX DPS as Tribal Band decide now is the time to join the engagement. They begin to undock a mix of talwar class destroyers and 100mn vexors - unluckily for us we are in the middle of the tow gangs, and already taking aggro from TNT, TRIBE begin to focus us too - we burn out (lol ahac), and make some range to alleviate the dps, and loose a zealot in the process.

    TNT then begin to focus TRIBE as we are out of range and they're Auto fit, so we come back in and continue the free for all. A few ship explosions later Game Over. Hold the field and we begin looting what wrecks are worth looting while popping the others.

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17698619
    http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=18515 - show's the numbers from the Game Over. perspective.

    It is to be noted at this point that the resident Entity. Ishtar specialist Eric Underwing spied an opportunity mid-fight for looting a ship that was most thoroughly out of place, a Tengu class stategic cruiser with a net loot drop of around 1.4b.

    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_d...ll_id=17697343

    We loot the tengu wreck and get the drop safe to an link alt.
    After the majority of the wrecks are looted we begin to head home. We hear information that TRIBE have formed up yet another gang on the quiet that plan to cut us off, on our way home to bring glorious valour to the Tribal band name.

    Their gang consists of around 80-115, our intel is sparse but we do know that they have more zealots than we have members in fleet with around 8 or so logistics and roughly 10 celestis, fit with damps with 15 or so talwars thrown in for good measure. We decide to burn best speed back to stain in the hope of beating them to it, but props to TRIBE, they successfully cut us off, and we eventually are cut off by them.

    With the TRIBE gang blocking our way on one side of the gate, with our gang on the other side we wait and hold for them to jump into us. Our intel informs us that they are jumping just the talwars only into us to get us to aggro. Naturally with no way out we decide to take our chances and begin to pop the brave talwars. After chewing through the majority of them the remaining hostile fleet jump in.

    The fight begins well for us, we are chewing through their celestis' while remaining reps, however as the hostile numbers slowly enter local and become organised, more damps are placed on our logi. We are holding the reps fine on the ships we are able to lock in time, but our logi is having a problem locking the ones that aren't locked in time to apply the reps - due to the damps from the hostile celestis.

    It's called that our reps aren't holding, so we decide to turtle up and de-aggro on the gate while trying to keep as many alive as possible. We eventually loose a fair few to Tribal Band, but none the less it was inevitable and good fights were had all around.

    We also safely got the tengu loot back home which helped to alleviate some of the losses, but it was a good couple of fights and Tribal band eventually brought the numbers to overwhelm.
    The related br is below.


    http://entity.killmail.org/?a=kill_r...ll_id=17697614


    gf Tribal band we hope for more down the line,
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    Last edited by Oli Robbo; May 12 2013 at 12:23:34 AM. Reason: updated br from battle doc
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    So, after being unable to sleep I decided to get up at 5 in the morning and see what kind of pilots we had online at the god forsaken crack of dawn. Anyways, our CHICA bro's decided to have a lawl and dropped SBU's in the TRIBE systems down in Paragon Soul, our brave Chica brethren who lost a bomber while scouting the TRIBE Fleet, quickly pinged us when they began receiving mails that they were assaulting the SBU's. Anyways we quickly formed AHACS and jumped on our jump bridge network, which took us right next to the system. We jumped in and warped on field, though they began running right as we came on grid. Alas the Hero Raven and his buddy Oracles/Pest were caught by our bubble and we quickly burned them down.

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    michaeljd, last night Unclaimed. lost a RF'ed neo moon to a 90 man fleet from Nulli, with some Kadeshi and a few randoms in the RHG-40 pocket in Feythabolis.

    Unclaimed. formed a Apoc fleet and got into system first:
    (20:59:04) 5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net/Jabber: 120 in fleet, only 90 make it to the system
    (20:59:08) 5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net/Jabber: 20 still docked where we started

    Nulli dropped a Gila fleet on the Apoc's. The Apoc's immediately went inside the POS shields. Bubbles went up around the POS and a number of ships were caught inside the POS which the Gilas were now killing. The caught shhips ended up getting ganked when the tower went down while the rest of your fleet were sitting in another Unclaimed. POS in system.

    Nulli began setting up a new tower on the moon, left system and form up on a titan incase Unclaimed. would have a go for the anchoring tower. This resulted in a number of additional kills for the Nulli and co fleet (thank you).

    I haven't been in 0.0 in a while. Would you mind helping me understand why you didn't fight equal numbers, when you had a r64 coming out of RF? I noticed in the BR's (which loaded on my computer -terrible kb:S) you had a 2:1 advantage vs. DD.

    One of your guys made this comment, when during one of the episodes where we bridged in on you again: [21:02:02] > we will reinforce it once you leave

    Is this the current state of the South?
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    As someone who hasnt kept up with eve politics, why has the HBC fallen apart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by damaslaus View Post
    As someone who hasnt kept up with eve politics, why has the HBC fallen apart?
    The real answer to this would earn me an infraction, suffice to say goons made a very good decision when they decided to leave HBC to self destruct of it's own accord.

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    To answer your questions as to why they POS'd up; unfortunately both myself and the other lead FC were offline at the time of this fight and someone didn't put the Neo on the timer page *EPIC FACEPALM* right? Anyways it was being led by our Alliance leader who is both inexperienced when it comes to FCing so when the cyno went up he panicked a little. Anyways I was pretty angry when I saw this because Gila's are pretty easy to counter

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    Just going to leave this here. In regards to the battle between N3 and Unclaimed. yesterday.

    (20:57:01) [email]5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net Jabber: so how would you like the space transfered, drop sov, or via a holding corp =P
    (20:58:40) Awesome Dude [THOR]: u giving up already?
    (20:58:52) [email]5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net Jabber: pretty much
    (20:58:54) [email]5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net Jabber: kinda done
    (20:59:04) [email]5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net Jabber: 120 in fleet, only 90 make it to the system
    (20:59:08) [email]5n4keyes@jabberlon5.net Jabber: 20 still docked where we started
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    Quote Originally Posted by damaslaus View Post
    As someone who hasnt kept up with eve politics, why has the HBC fallen apart?
    TL;DR of it is: Sort got mad at progod, tried to start his own alliance and it didn't work so great. PL said fuck this. Test said fuck this. HBC is now in 2 parts with as of yet undecided new nicknames. Test and some friends in one group and all the other random scrub alliances in another. There's a thread up in Eve general about it, go read it.
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    Awesome BR from op but what's this?

    http://kb-dda.ru/battle/b7315/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orar Ironfist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by damaslaus View Post
    As someone who hasnt kept up with eve politics, why has the HBC fallen apart?
    TL;DR of it is: Sort got mad at progod, tried to start his own alliance and it didn't work so great. PL said fuck this. Test said fuck this. HBC is now in 2 parts with as of yet undecided new nicknames. Test and some friends in one group and all the other random scrub alliances in another. There's a thread up in Eve general about it, go read it.
    You could at least link the thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUzziBabes View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Orar Ironfist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by damaslaus View Post
    As someone who hasnt kept up with eve politics, why has the HBC fallen apart?
    TL;DR of it is: Sort got mad at progod, tried to start his own alliance and it didn't work so great. PL said fuck this. Test said fuck this. HBC is now in 2 parts with as of yet undecided new nicknames. Test and some friends in one group and all the other random scrub alliances in another. There's a thread up in Eve general about it, go read it.
    You could at least link the thread?
    Sorry was posting from phone before. Here it is: http://failheap-challenge.com/showth...e-HBC-incoming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarnca View Post
    Awesome BR from op but what's this?

    http://kb-dda.ru/battle/b7315/



    Nice video/good kills, but good god that killboard is like a giant pack of exploded skittles.

    I am kind of curious as to how they got curb stomped so hard. Maybe the logistics fell asleep at the wheel?
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    The HBC falling apart started when the whole non-war of HBC vs CFC happened (as in: nothing happened). Mittens played his hand well and caused Montolio to loose face, and when consequently Montolio stepped down as TEST and de facto HBC leader, it all went downhill. Cue Power vacuum, PL distancing himself, a generally not respected Sort Dragon stepping up as HBC leader, starting and ill advised war against Nulli / N3 for personal reasons and getting BoB mk.3 on TEST's ass, causing TEST to peace out with a big middle finger to Sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaDutchDude View Post
    The HBC falling apart started when the whole non-war of HBC vs CFC happened (as in: nothing happened). Mittens played his hand well and caused Montolio to loose face, and when consequently Montolio stepped down as TEST and de facto HBC leader, it all went downhill. Cue Power vacuum, PL distancing himself, a generally not respected Sort Dragon stepping up as HBC leader, starting and ill advised war against Nulli / N3 for personal reasons and getting BoB mk.3 on TEST's ass, causing TEST to peace out with a big middle finger to Sort.
    I'm gonna sorta agree and blame this on Sort being sort. He's a pretty solid FC, but he's absolutely abysmal at being in charge or anything. Unless you distinctly separate him in your mind between when he's FCing, and when he's doing anything else, you can't respect him.

    Outside of being an FC he's a complete asshole, can't run anything, and single handedly drove off a ton of NCdot's pvpers in the past due to him being the way he is.

    That said, TEST is absolutely incapable of doing anything and, due to their leadership culture, will very likely not improve for the forseeable future. TEST wouldn't have been a functioning member of the HBC even if they had remained in it - their memberbase only responded to a few people, and given how terribad their leadership has been lately (and how often it changes) they likely lack any sort of cohesiveness.
    All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

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