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    Quote Originally Posted by r0b0to View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Your better off with just the some crystals and t2 fit
    or crystals with this fit
    Your also lacking in dps btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by r0b0to View Post
    but it isn't inferior at all, maybe 70 dps less or so than a 6hml fit
    A 6-launcher setup runs with 667 DPS, 699 with ROF implant.

    558 dps, 594 with ROF implant
    More like 110 dps lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by r0b0to View Post
    but it isn't inferior at all, maybe 70 dps less or so than a 6hml fit
    A 6-launcher setup runs with 667 DPS, 699 with ROF implant.

    558 dps, 594 with ROF implant
    More like 110 dps lower.
    i see
    more dps is more isk/hr
    although i might just sell this tengu and get another mach/vindi for incursions

    E: how is this:

    [Tengu, Sanctum Whore import 2]
    Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
    Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
    Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
    Damage Control II

    Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
    Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
    Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster
    Gist C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
    Gist C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
    Gist C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field

    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

    670 deeps
    982 tank v serpentis
    much cheaper
    deadspace hardeners just because

    might be able to get this and an incursion vehicle

    or this:


    [Tengu, Sanctum Whore import 2]
    Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
    Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
    Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
    Damage Control II

    Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
    Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
    Shield Boost Amplifier II
    Gist C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
    Gist C-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
    Gist C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field

    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

    200 more tank for 200m isk

    E: how important is the target painter? i'm new to all this
    Last edited by r0b0to; June 13 2012 at 12:07:42 AM.

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    I would personally go 2 x Rigor II, 1 x CCC I unless you really need the cap.

    You only need a 4-slot tank so take off the suitcase and fit another BCS II and PWNAGE. It's often the difference between 2-shotting and 3-shotting a ship. (or x-shotting for elite frigates)
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    I don't know why people keep fitting CCCs on Tengus. Go with a T2 RoF rig instead for more deeps.
    Also, 4 BCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    I would personally go 2 x Rigor II, 1 x CCC I unless you really need the cap.

    You only need a 4-slot tank so take off the suitcase and fit another BCS II and PWNAGE. It's often the difference between 2-shotting and 3-shotting a ship. (or x-shotting for elite frigates)
    it seems like a really weak tank then :s
    is 800 dps tanked sufficient?



    Quote Originally Posted by kyrieee View Post
    I don't know why people keep fitting CCCs on Tengus. Go with a T2 RoF rig instead for more deeps.
    Also, 4 BCS.
    T2 ROF rig adds 40 dps but only leaves enough calibration for one T1 rigor or flare..., and also it isn't cap stable
    Last edited by r0b0to; June 13 2012 at 01:44:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r0b0to View Post
    it seems like a really weak tank then :s
    is 800 dps tanked sufficient?
    Yeah, ofc. It might get a bit hairy doing an 8/10 serpentis plex, but it cruises through anything else.

    Sometimes, during a Sanctum, I sometimes turn on the second shield booster, just for kicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r0b0to View Post
    T2 ROF rig adds 40 dps but only leaves enough calibration for one T1 rigor or flare..., and also it isn't cap stable
    52 with implants.
    Both fits you posted are capstable, first one needs an implant (which it doesn't need because you don't need to run your booster for 15 minutes straight, ever). Fewer Rigors yes, comes down to how many frigs vs BS there are. You shouldn't have the CCC in either case IMO.

    Unless they've massively increased the DPS in Sanctums these Tengus are way overtanked anyway. I used to run them with one small Gistii B-Type, one hardener and three Target Painters (and HAMs lol).
    Last edited by kyrieee; June 13 2012 at 09:58:41 AM.

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    lol this setup fails so hard in the last room of serpentis prison camp (8/10)

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    I am looking for a ship to run a few lvl 4s with every now and then, and the setup with 2x small Gistii boosters posted some pages ago looks good. But what is the benefit of a Tengu compared to a XL booster Mach for example? I am looking for something that does it as fast as possible, I am not looking for an afk setup. What ship (max. 1-2 bil total) would you suggest?

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    Level 4s get a macha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Level 4s get a macha
    Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scopique View Post
    I am looking for a ship to run a few lvl 4s with every now and then, and the setup with 2x small Gistii boosters posted some pages ago looks good. But what is the benefit of a Tengu compared to a XL booster Mach for example? I am looking for something that does it as fast as possible, I am not looking for an afk setup. What ship (max. 1-2 bil total) would you suggest?
    [Tengu, lvl4 blitz]
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
    Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter

    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
    pimp the rest if you want.

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    why nanofiber prop mod instead of afterburner speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varcaus View Post
    Level 4s get a macha
    Confirming this. If my carebear alt could fly one I'd use it but a tengu will do them a bit slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponk View Post
    why nanofiber prop mod instead of afterburner speed?
    its personal choice tbh, neither of them make much difference to blitz speed in my experience.

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    [Tengu, It's just HAM]

    Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
    Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II

    Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
    Caldari Navy Kinetic Deflection Field
    Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field
    Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
    Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
    Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster

    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

    Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


    Zainou 'Snapshot' Assault Missiles AM-703
    Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803
    Zainou 'Deadeye' Target Navigation Prediction TN-903
    Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003



    ~930dps pre-Retri, probably worth taking off a BCS for a tracking enhancer once that works.
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    It got changed so it wont work like that yet at least.

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    I was just irritated that there were no pve hamgus posted in the entire thread. I haven't even tested that fit, since the tank is a bit anemic what with the two mids dedicated to killing small stuff.
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    Real issue is range

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