Venal

[Garst Tyrell]

our aussies had a great set of fights this morning. also nc is fighting for their towers again \o/ sorry correction rawr is dragging nc into defending RAWR towers again while leaving the rest to die so business as usual

anyway crossposting a quick aar from one of my guys who was there

"mini AAR. merc forms for timer. we have around 40 while scouting a 70 man shield bc NC gang + caps. hold off and start talking with ncdot. combined we form 80 man baddon fleet and NC bull rushes to HBD. we light cyno off of pos and they all warp at zero. 70 man baddon fleet bridge and total rape ensues. we also snag a bunch of shield repping carriers. tower dies at this point. ncdot and merc supers come in to shoot carriers then help finish tower with sentries

get word of 160 man NC bs gang formed up and heading our way while tower onlines. we spam both alliances for more and get around ~80-90 (?) and go balls deep. NC rock up, we melt primaries faster than them and we commit a couple triage carriers to fight. epic slug that went on forever ensues with us bridging back pockets of reinforcements mid fight from k3 and h-pa respectively. PL burn up from tribute way and NC flees (but not before 60-70% off their fleet is melted by ncdot/merciless)

tower finishes anchoring. much looting was to be had"-kryptyk

"Aye it was touch and go for a moment there, since we were so outnumbered, but the FC called for dps on dps ships instead of logistics while nc tried to kill our logi. Numbers were dieing real quickly.
Then ncdot FC got killed and demanded for a target caller, but everyone froze so i grabbed the mic and started yelling target calling and broadcasting.
When i took over the nc numbers were smaller and more manageable for their logis so some reps were holding but i switched targets and it worked again"-unclesam88

BR is kinda a clusterfuck but ill throw in evekill for ya

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9650583 so 5 carriers and probably 70% of nc killed in both fights, probably 30% friendly (merc/ncdot) losses

Also popped my supercap kill cherry last night, merc rushed into a ncdot fleet last minute so low turnout, but taking my hic which I almost never do felt like destiny ,and behold, first nyx kill and a great fight. I use the term fight loosely because again nc had 300+ 1j away in d-7 guarding an ihub while this poor guy died off a pos while his friends inside watched for about 20+ mins. PL also nuked a couple carriers and we killed 2 dreads outside with the nyx.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9648634

[Fayceoff]

Questionable tactics by NC for bringing an alpha abaddon fleet and then spending the first third of the fight trying to pick off guardians and a triage carrier when the whole point of alpha is to bypass logistics. NC would do better if they had DrKrom from Gypsy Band FCing imo!

[Kryptyk]

awesome fight, big props to both ncdot and merciless holding strong against a larger bs force in a straight up slug fest

lots of fun, tower op success and 2 rounds of fighting. thx NC for bringing it

gfgf

[Garst Tyrell]

Goons RF'd one of our tech moons, it came out this morning a bit before downtime. I was sleeping soundly in my bed knowing our aussie formation was getting the job done, great job guys glad they gave you a nice fight. Obviously moon saved

http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18208

65 Merciless + 70 NCDot + 48 PL vs 152 goon n friends

After that combined forces took a few more tech moons in venal liberating more precious tech from the nc oppressor /wizardhat

Later on we jumped on a nc bc gang led by none other than kulaaaaa who is proudly back in hirr [rawr] after his brief foray into corporate management.

3a1p + n6g
http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18322
http://merciless-alliance.com/killboard ... l_id=18278

[Garst Tyrell]

atm the nc has the entire weekend warrior kitchen sink in h-pa attempting to shoot staging towers, but they have successfully lagged the system that even with 1100+ guys they cant finish rfing the last ncdot tower because their guns arent cycling in the high lag. Pos gunners are having fun with them tho

[Helen]

They lost a tech moon while doing all this blob shit again.

[HyJek]

so apparently ME is supposed to be joining Gypsy Band in N5Y, can't think that will go very well for them...

[Garst Tyrell]

to be fair unlike highsec, as their alliance mail noted first and foremost there are high quality guristas mission agents in n5y, a perfect place for majesta to move. its what drew band there anyway, and probably rage next

[Liptonez]

Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

[Helen]

Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

Tengu > Abaddon though.


But Titan > Tengu.


But CCP > everything as server is down.

[Garst Tyrell]

Why do people even keep reporting, it's like no one realizes that Abaddons > all. It's fucking boring.

and yet people fly fleets other than abaddons

mirror fleet fights > ganking ratters (of which theyre are barely any in the north anymore with the sanctum nerf and war)

[Garst Tyrell]

OVRHT destroyed a BAND pos in northern venal today. We killed it without any drama and moved our hellcats back to our midpoint titan to see if we couldnt shit on any of the evaccing caps jumping around venal like crazy. Goons scouted us, band probably bleated to them about losing the tower, so vee took a gang in to shoot it to provoke us into a fight. Sadly we were unable to stront it before goons got on the tower.

We moved a cyno back and jumped into a ping off the tower; goons bounced their own ping and warped to us at 50 to begin the fight. Numbers were roughly even at this point, about 70v80ish. We were forced to burn after them and bounce triage carriers around in order to try to run them down. The fight went well but we traded most our tackle and all bubblers for a greater bloodletting on their battleships. While regrouping they bridged in more reinforcements so we asked the ncdot regroup to move our way. By the time they got in range the tower had just died, we jumped in again. Goons warped to 0 inexplicably and aggroed on us, so we engaged back and lit our cyno for a similarly sized hellcat ncdot gang to jump in with a couple more triage carriers. We forced goons off the field but were unable to kill their new anchored tower or finish off their fleet as it bounced safes and continued to grow in number with backup fleets sitting on a titan a few jumps away.

Deciding that after attrition we were too outnumbered, we made our escape and finished the night off by shitting on some gypsy band ihubs in branch before heading home.

GF goons ty for the fight

http://www.merciless-alliance.com/killb ... l_id=20910
Ncdot joined for the second skirmish

[Hunlight]

Damn garst beat me to the br was going to write one up this morning was good fight shame they decided to double their numbers by the end. either way good fights was had.

[Garst Tyrell]

Roughly 50man Merciless hellcat fleet vs 135+ goon gank dps fleet (couple logi and a bit of tackle but about 100+ gank bcs if not more)

A large roaming deklein fed blob that had hovered around 90-170 throughout the night had been busy running around raiden and irc space not getting any fights, which isnt surprising because only faggots roam around in 150 man fleets expecting fights (esp since they never did this when pl/ncdot/wn/evoke was active up here and might actually be able to match their numbers ); and only trolls roam around in 150 man arty hurricane fleets expecting fights. Goons have had 80-100+ roaming gangs hunting carebears in venal daily now so its not too shocking once you factor in the weekend warrior bloat in fleet. I cant really rat on goons too hard tho, I mean we did jump into them

Interestingly enough despite scouting one of our moons coming out of RF and assuming that someone might show up to fight over it, they ran over to irc space to do a blob log on trap on the edge of tenal that I dont think actually killed anything. After saving our two poses uneventfully, a seemingly diminished and strung out goon fleet was spotted burning home full speed 2j under where we were saving our last pos for the first round.

Since RDN pussied out I attempted to get us a nice dangerous fight with goons on the way home by catching their blob in a sling bubble with a hic + titan bridge surprise buttsex. However this failed from the start when our scouts failed to give quick enough intel to give our hictor time to bubble up as the blob jumped in and local and warped to him. As such he was tackled 50 off gate with the blob landing at 0. As he was about to die anyway I had him light his cyno and we bridged in to save him, and much to my initial delight (and eventual horror) the deklein blob turned off the gate and was COMING RIGHT AT US™

We anchored up and started our first and later 2-3 triage carriers going while working our way through the seemingly endless hurricanes. We later found out that with a 'bring whatever you want fleet', roughly half of the canes were actually AC canes with dual neuts which broke the cap stability of our triage carriers while the alpha/DPS that did them in in under a minute each. While we primaried the hurricanes and struggled at first with our dps due to ecm drone spam, they were busy working their way through our guardians and then the triage carriers. We finally found our rhythm and dps started to apply but by then we were out of logi and had to bail. Trapped 30km+ bit off gate towards the cyno, I ordered overheated mwding to the gate and jumping on contact hoping their guys would be too busy with aggroe and unable to jump and tackle us since we were dead on grid anyway. A handful of us made it out and safed up. Despite having 135 in fleet they had no probers so after a few mins of camping they gave up on us and we slunk back to our newly saved pos to get bridged home and stand down for the first round of our long sunday.

In hindsight it seems we were much more outnumbered than I previously thought, especially in dps. We actually struggled to apply dps which pissed me off in the beginning (why were shield canes with minimal ehp and like 3 scimis tanking 20-30 hellcats up close for so long?), but it looks like we had serious issues with ecm drone spam and possible ecm from ships farther off from us. If you look at the kills we had maybe 10-15 on each killmail while they were able to apply full blob dps to everything, melting our guardians and subcaps instantly, and carriers in under a minute.

We had no kills in the last part of the rout because I ordered a deaggroe as we burned to get so we could jump ASAP and GTFO, sadly we lost a lot of tackled people off gate who never had a chance to make it back and jump.

Conclusion

This was a deceptively vulnerable fleet when we first engaged. I saw their fleet as strung out with much reduced numbers running home full speed in a lemming fleet which is the only reason I felt remotely comfortable engaging this alpha blob, but I failed to anticipate that while they might be strung out, the size of the engagement meant that the stragglers could catch up and join in. The failed hictor trap also gave them plenty of time to react as were loading grid, time that I had planned to surprise them with but instead surprised us. We fought a losing battle as every time we killed a hurricane a straggler replaced its dps on us and our own outgoing dps was cut down by hurricane ecm drones. The overview had grown by the end of the battle, not shrunk in size.

Their sheer dps + massive spread neuts/ecm drones did us in; our tanks were not up to the challenge even with 10 guardians and 3 triage carriers giving it their all. I suppose we could have tried to keep range but at the time we thought they were all arty ships and they were faster than us anyway. Triage carriers melted near instantly (sub 1 min each), everything else damn near instapopped. We cycled triage cycles but to no avail.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10274235
We killed way more than its showing but the merciless br is shit compared to this one in terms of mixed up people on sides making it unreadable. Maybe itll api pull more later vOv

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Posting this not because we heroically beat the odds or killed a dozen supers, but because it feels good to be back fcing a Merciless only fleet of a decent size again. Im proud that after our post nc-war low we are coming back stronger than ever, and im hoping that in the future we can get back to breaking 100+ for our biggest fights and keep hitting over our weight class

[Garst Tyrell]

Instead of going south with everyone else or fighting alliances their own size, RDN has been reinforcing OVRHT highends in Venal this week. Multiple reasons have been given, including something about provoking "gfs" and disbanding us back to empire when our tech dies, but we all know its about them wanting to jew more isk for sanctum nyxes. A scary screenshot of their supercap fleet was even posted on one of our Hungarian corp's forums as a threat of THINGS TO CUM before we disband back to empire. God dammit we hate empire but love tech so this is a no-win situation for us!

With our backs to the empire wall and our very 0.0 livelihood apparently tied to the health of our highends, we stoically formed an au tz AHAC fleet to defend our last two timers of the day (3 pos saves and 1 fun welp to goons earlier that night).

Raiden jumps into ek2 with about 15 dreads to start the tower and we pounce on them with our roughly 50man AHAC gang including support. Immediately a cyno pops and the RDN support comes in with a similar number of abaddons/t3 and a triage archon; brawl ensues. Our numbers are too low to fight through the triage reps although we do have limited success changing targets quicker than the archon can react while losing a few ships to the abaddons. The archon FINALLY caps out 10-20min in and we burn him down and get to start killing abaddons like we should have been all along, melting them quickly.

At this turning point in the battle our bubblers have done a marvelous job keeping the dreads on the field, but tbh it feels like they were never given the order to warp off/jump out/log anyway as they just sat there and tried to shoot the ahacs. We attempt to start to clear the field but alas GFs are not to be and a new RDN cyno opens to blob us with titan doomsdays and supers as expected. The new triage carrier is popped and we fight out from under the supers for another 10 min, killing the majority of their subcaps while racing against the next round of doomsdays. We break contact suffering almost 100% logi casualties and warp to the star where our inities have held a brilliant naglfar using the star at 0 as a warp out. We try to get bubbles in the way of their warpin to prevent their capital reps from landing in range however with no dictors left and our hictor too close, we fail and suffice to kill a few more abaddons before being forced to flee the star and system. The POS is replaced by RDN with a medium tower :v

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10276599
http://www.merciless-alliance.com/ki...d&kll_id=27442 (dirtier br, more accurate count of kills)

At this point we bridge home and reship once again to new ahacs to try to save our last tower of the night. RDN has steadily grown in numbers with the eu weekend warriors logging on, and move on the last pos. Having a rough idea their new fleet sizes and a plan in mind we once again bridge onto the dreads shooting our tower. Sadly the supercap spam entered from the first moment of this fight this time at 0 rather that a ping as hoped. Either I failed at absorbing the intel or the scouts failed at reporting accurately, but we had to immediately bail with no kills but a fair number of losses when we fought a fleet roughly double in capability/supers of what we had optimistically expected to give a GF. As the doomsday effects turn off and the pos instadies, we break contact and burn home, one step closer to retreating to empire. As the ashes settle we hunker down in k3 and begin pouring over dotlan for a new lowsec station to live in (and it better have fucking level 5 mission access)

3 pos saved so far, 2 lost. No br to link for the second welp, was just a bunch of merciless losses to supers so nothing interesting there ((

Miraculously I wasnt doomsdayed so im going to keep posting until im important enough to be instakilled every hotdrop again dammit

[Leviathan]

GF merci.. raiden like GF's as much as the goons and russians.

[Garst Tyrell]

GF merci.. raiden like GF's as much as the goons and russians.

(1)(0) Aeon (Supercarrier)
(10)(0) Nyx (Supercarrier)
(3)(0) Avatar (Titan)
(4)(0) Erebus (Titan)

for a 40 man fight? drop the GF act and just admit you're here to jew tech. Stop treating the fhc community like morons

[Liptonez]

I don't really see how running around in a 40 man abaddon fleet with triage support is "looking for GFs" either.

But that Ahac welp is a damn shame.

[Badboy K]

(1)(0) Aeon (Supercarrier)
(10)(0) Nyx (Supercarrier)
(3)(0) Avatar (Titan)
(4)(0) Erebus (Titan)

for a 40 man fight? drop the GF act and just admit you're here to jew tech. Stop treating the fhc community like morons

dude, go back to 2004 and fight with t1 cruisers ...for GF's...

[Garst Tyrell]

I don't really see how running around in a 40 man abaddon fleet with triage support is "looking for GFs" either.

But that Ahac welp is a damn shame.

funny story about that, if you mean the one from this week we engaged a 135 man goon bc gang. pretty sure fighting 135v40 is the definition of good fights for people looking to do something other than gank ravens or camp a nullsec entrance gate